243 vs 6.5 creedmore.
- Thread starter Shooterjimi
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Well, that reply wasn't directed to you at all so I wasn't comparing anything you mention. That's why the post you quoted me from features me quoting hawk-i, not you.
And sure, I've been up close to lots of animals and killed em just fine, without 1 or 2 power. Don't need it. Don't care what anyone thinks I've "obviously" done or not done.
If you disagree lets each shoot a video at the range engaging close up targets for time. You specify the distance. Deal? Cause the idea that it makes such a huge difference and that obviously someone doesn't know if they were never close to an animal is hilarious.
If you want to, you can use 1 and 2. I'll use 3 and 4. See who wins.
Can likely get it done over the holidays.
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Quote Originally Posted by huntingfamily
Love my VX-6 1-6x scope. Currently sits on a 20.5" barreled 9.3x62 which is perfect for going in the thick stuff for wounded bears. I would NEVER consider putting a straight 6x on it. Or a straight 4x for that matter
I shot this buck in a split second at 12 yards on 4X using a 1.5 -4X20 Leupold in brush with falling light, no issues
This one was shot at less than ten yards but in good light
I have killed bears with 6X scopes as well, but when talking about spitting distance, a SxS shotgun is what I preferred when I was guiding, but I no longer hunt bears anyway
Cat
Love my VX-6 1-6x scope. Currently sits on a 20.5" barreled 9.3x62 which is perfect for going in the thick stuff for wounded bears. I would NEVER consider putting a straight 6x on it. Or a straight 4x for that matter
I shot this buck in a split second at 12 yards on 4X using a 1.5 -4X20 Leupold in brush with falling light, no issues
This one was shot at less than ten yards but in good light
I have killed bears with 6X scopes as well, but when talking about spitting distance, a SxS shotgun is what I preferred when I was guiding, but I no longer hunt bears anyway
Cat
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- Location
- West Central Alberta
I would take a 6.5 creedmoor over a 243 everytime
Reckon you can be close enough to something that a coronor would call it suicide and use 3x just fine. Yeah, might not be what you want for charging, wounded bears, but then thats true for an awful lot of stuff, aint it lol
Would be willing to bet even reticle choice makes a bigger diff than 1 or 2 vs 3 or 4 x.
Dang that No 1 is fiiine lol
Would be willing to bet even reticle choice makes a bigger diff than 1 or 2 vs 3 or 4 x.
Dang that No 1 is fiiine lol
- Location
- Steel Town
I find that my CZ 557 in 243 is a nice very mild shooting choice between my Ruger M77 in 7x57 and my CZ 527 in 7.62x39. It fills that gap perfectly. I have no need for 6.5 CM, especially with 308 on hand.
what a hot mess this turned into, I don't think the op ever came back lol
if factory ammo is a thing the 6.5 cm with 140 gr white box match eld-m would be my recommendation. Pretty sure that will be one of the highest selling ammo's available most places over the next 100 years and it will hunt every bit as good as it will ping steel. The .243 100 gr combo is a well documented combo but a bit niche. If the op reloads it doesn't matter much the choice, versatility goes way past the point of who cares between them.
to continue the derail, I'm in the 1-6 camp now also, more of that please, still tough to beat the 3-9's, just not as many more 'hunt focused' 1-6's out there, also into the illuminated center dot camp whenever possible too, very intuitive when on auto-pilot
if factory ammo is a thing the 6.5 cm with 140 gr white box match eld-m would be my recommendation. Pretty sure that will be one of the highest selling ammo's available most places over the next 100 years and it will hunt every bit as good as it will ping steel. The .243 100 gr combo is a well documented combo but a bit niche. If the op reloads it doesn't matter much the choice, versatility goes way past the point of who cares between them.
to continue the derail, I'm in the 1-6 camp now also, more of that please, still tough to beat the 3-9's, just not as many more 'hunt focused' 1-6's out there, also into the illuminated center dot camp whenever possible too, very intuitive when on auto-pilot
Mogulrider
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I've hunted with 243 for 45 years. 6.5 for 5 years.
I ain't no man bun and it drops animals like nothing else when you factor in recoil and accuracy.
These limp dicked punks have no idea what they are talking about.
6.5 and 243 will drop anything you shoot at.
I have both and they work just fine on any North American game animals.
Jesus christ
I ain't no man bun and it drops animals like nothing else when you factor in recoil and accuracy.
These limp dicked punks have no idea what they are talking about.
6.5 and 243 will drop anything you shoot at.
I have both and they work just fine on any North American game animals.
Jesus christ
Lots of us have been hunting with 6.5s for way longer, not the fancy 6.5CM version, but the 120+ yeat old 6.5x55 version, same deal, low recoil, super accurate, drops stuff very well.
Nothing really new about the 6.5CM.
Only the platforms it can be used in, mags it fits in, throats actually cut for high BC bullets that fit in those mags, and people caring enough to have great match and hunting (often both) available on shelves in quantity never seen with the older mousetraps.
I agree they're just as good and can be loaded to surpass the new kid on the block, but...it still opens more doors to options you won't get the old timers in. Sadly many of which are moot for us here in Canada!
Course often enough the fans of the old cartridges join in the hate because...reasons? I dunno lol. But yeah, everyone who critiques the Creedmoor as too small for big game forgets or is ignorant of an awful lot of hunting history. Even the 6.5 Grendel can come pretty close to 6.5x54 MS carbine levels and they killed a few arkloads worth.
And fast twist for heavy bullets. Nothing new, etc. - dan
Was it always so possible to walk into a store, and buy a relatively cheap rifle, with a fast twist barrel, throated for heavy bullets of match quality that you were pretty sure would not only be in the stores, but in many kinds? Or was it more of a "custom" proposition?
Seems to be quite an "easy button" for handloading ammo of the same quality as well, too.
If you didn't load, Lapua, Norma, RWS 6.5x55 was around at a few shops.
Not as plentiful as today with 6.5CM offerings for sure, but I'd wager a $50 box of 6.5x55 Lapua shoots better then a box of $80 6.5CM Hornady.
The reason being, Scandi Europe has a real hardcore target shooting association, and 6.5x55 was the standard cartridge until the early 80's when they switched over to 308, they could only shoot factory ammo in competition then, probably the same now, I dunno, not up to date on my Scandi target shooting these days.
Eventually the 6.5x47 Lapua came about, and is still the 6.5 target cartridge to beat.
The CM stuff was born and raised to sell guns and ammo to north Americans, North Americans are not marksman like the Scandinavians, different worlds all together.
Groups we shoot here at 300m with 30x scopes, they crush with irons, different levels entirely.
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