243 vs 6.5 creedmore.

[dan belisle]

Im gonna open up a can of worms here. I am looking to purchase a light calibre rifle. I have narrowed it down to the 243 ans 6.5 creedmore. I'm a 30.06 guy and havent shot much smaller. Comparisons on line show nearly idemtical balistics woth a slight adadvantage to the 6.5 at longer distances. Our intent is mainly deer and some target shhoting. 6.5 seems to cost on adverage 300-400 more. Is there any advantage that im not seing? Pros and cons to each thanks.

A good friend's dad decided his 308 was too much recoil, and switched to a 243 (being a Winchester kind of guy). Used that for, hmm, 25 years or so. Whitetails, mulies, moose, elk, wolves, coyotes and cougars. All fell to his 243, using 100 gr bullets (factory ammo). Shot placement is the key. Personally I favour heavier bullets, but there is no arguing with success. - dana

 

[Joel]

The 110 grain A-Tip Match with .604 BC and at 3050 fps is only dropping about 1,990 inches at 2000 yards. Lil bit of holdover, thats all!

Heck, watching that Aussie couple on Youtube shooting 45 Colt and other lever guns at 1000 yards kinda makes a 243 Win at twice that distance feel like cheating!

 

[Hitzy]

The 110 grain A-Tip Match with .604 BC and at 3050 fps is only dropping about 1,990 inches at 2000 yards. Lil bit of holdover, thats all!

Heck, watching that Aussie couple on Youtube shooting 45 Colt and other lever guns at 1000 yards kinda makes a 243 Win at twice that distance feel like cheating!

1km (1000m) ain't that bad with a ballistic calculator like Strelok etc, it was more interesting back in the day with irons and #### cartridges they had for competitions...that is marksmanship, that required major skill and practice. Even the 300m international irons competitions are almost unbelievable with what those guys can do, shoot tighter groups then your average "target shooting" guy with a 30x scope lol.
Hell today I could bring a newb that never shot a gun and get them hitting steel from 600m to 1000m in less then a 20 rounds with a half dozen guns I got set up for that... maybe not on a windy day, but you get what I mean, it's math primarily, wind is still a skill.

 

[Joel]

Oh heck yeah. Some amazing shooting with the old black powder cartridge rifles and iron sights for sure

 

[Desjard]

6mm creedmoor?

 

[6MT]

Yep. It’s a necked down 6.5CM.

 

[boxhitch]

20 moa rail and a scope with an adequate dial..
It's well beyond the comprehension of the MPBR crowd.
It's been done lots. And done very well.
R.

whats your scope choice ?

 

[Rman]

whats your scope choice ?

NF mostly, some Leupold, and a few others.

R.

 

[Joel]

So Leupys can actually really hack having their dials twisted and hold zero for a while?

Not saying anyone here ever claimed different.

 

[Rman]

So Leupys can actually really hack having their dials twisted and hold zero for a while?

Not saying anyone here ever claimed different.

The older ones certainly can... the same can't seem to be said for the newer ones.
It is one advantage of living near Korth and their drop box. It has saved a significant amount on postage.

R.

 

[Joel]

Heck, at least you can just go drop them off!

The older M8 and fixed powers kinda call to me, like the 6x with Boone and Crockett or LR reticle. Unsure if i want to spend on new ones. Lots of stories like yours.

 

[dan belisle]

Heck, at least you can just go drop them off!

The older M8 and fixed powers kinda call to me, like the 6x with Boone and Crockett or LR reticle. Unsure if i want to spend on new ones. Lots of stories like yours.

I have at least a half dozen of the older fixed 4x and 6x leupolds. Never had any issues, can't speak to the new ones though. - dan

 

[Joel]

I have at least a half dozen of the older fixed 4x and 6x leupolds. Never had any issues, can't speak to the new ones though. - dan

Cool!

When it comes ot hunting scopes, they seem to make a lot of sense.

 

[45C]

What are the benefits of a fixed 6x verses a 1-6

 

[iron cat]

What are the benefits of a fixed 6x verses a 1-6

I find that I never turn my power down if I have a variable to 4 or 6x so the variable feature is nothing but more moving parts and ( maybe) a bit if weight.
Less. Moving parts translates to reliability IMO.
Cat

 

[Joel]

I find that I never turn my power down if I have a variable to 4 or 6x so the variable feature is nothing but more moving parts and ( maybe) a bit if weight.
Less. Moving parts translates to reliability IMO.
Cat

Seconded.

I'd never use 1-5 anyway so why have a heavier, more complex optic?

A different rifle that sees different use might have a different answer.

 

[jkingrph]

No experience with either of those two. I have several Swedish Mausers, 6.5x55 and find it on paper to be similar to the Creedmore, so having loaded ammo, guns and extra brass/bullets I choose it. I also have a smaller 6.5 Grendel and absolutely love the cartridge, Not as long range as the ones you mention, but certainly adequate for deer up to probably 300 yards. Probably similar to a 30-30 powerwise but with the potential for good shooting at much longer ranges.

 

[hawk-i]

Seconded.

I'd never use 1-5 anyway so why have a heavier, more complex optic?

A different rifle that sees different use might have a different answer.

Never say never, there will come a time 1 power could save the day.

 

[pete dobinson]

Never say never, there will come a time 1 power could save the day.

Agree, it's always good to have options. I have a 2-7 leupold on my compact rifle, it works great in the timber.

 

[Joel]

Never say never, there will come a time 1 power could save the day.

All those poor people with 3-9s are really missing out