My thinking for a first hunting rifle

Edit lol, missed the quoting function. Thank you to everyone for your great responses and lively debates.
 
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Also wanted to add, that you don't need to get too wound up on finding the "perfect" gun right out of the gate. Most of us have found it either doesn't exist, or taken a bumblebee path to find it, sometimes ending up with the first gun we had which may have been a gift, or bought on a budget.

Lots of good used guns to try out, and reselling a used one that you didn't care for is seldom much of a loss.
 
That's been suggested by a couple of the guys, though many hunt with whatever they've got including bolt guns. My BLR idea came from that, but I guess I didn't want my only gun for the next year or two to be a lever, guess it could be. I'd thought I'd get a BLR in 243, but I do like the look of the takedown in .308.

Sounds like a Ontario hunt camp type of setting, I’m familiar with the Parry Sound area. What are your camp mates using, that might give you a good idea of what’s been working for them.

If I had to hunt thick brush 50-75m shots I’d want something with good irons, or a lpvo 1-4x20 if I couldn’t use irons anymore. So either a lever action 30-30 or something like a .308 Ruger scout would work well. I’m not a huge fan of the blr but that just preference of a tube fed vs the mag fed lever.
 
Also wanted to add, that you don't need to get too wound up on finding the "perfect" gun right out of the gate. Most of us have found it either doesn't exist, or taken a bumblebee path to find it, sometimes ending up with the first gun we had which may have been a gift, or bought on a budget.

Lots of good used guns to try out, and reselling a used one that you didn't care for is seldom much of a loss.

Was gifted a browning xbolt SS Stalker 7mm in 2013 , sold it in 2015 and regretted it , so I have a new one now and it’s my favourite.
 
Sounds like a Ontario hunt camp type of setting, I’m familiar with the Parry Sound area. What are your camp mates using, that might give you a good idea of what’s been working for them.

If I had to hunt thick brush 50-75m shots I’d want something with good irons, or a lpvo 1-4x20 if I couldn’t use irons anymore. So either a lever action 30-30 or something like a .308 Ruger scout would work well. I’m not a huge fan of the blr but that just preference of a tube fed vs the mag fed lever.

Under those circumstances I'd take my Rossi 92 in 454 Casull
 
You mean you don't like wildly differing bore sizes, crap iron sights, 5 MOA accuracy and gross triggers? Shame lol. Nah I agree. IF someone wanted to go 7.62x39 (and I do, btw) I'll go with somethin better.

ht tps://www.rifleshootermag.com/editorial/ruger-small-frame-autoloading-rifle-sfar/471350

Would ya look at that. 16" barrel, 168gr factory ammo, 2511 fps.

Think of that out of an 18.7" or 20" barrel like the OP said lol.

Talk about Cherry Picking, is True Velocity ammo even available in Canaderp?

Tell me how a Hornady 155gr bullet at 2511fps is in a different class than S&B in an SKS or in the same class as a 30-06.
 
Are these available in Canada?

*mic drop*

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To pick the caliber of the rifle you'ld choose, I'd suggest going to your local place that sells ammo and see what they have.
Have a exotic caliber but can't find any ammo isn't the greatest idea...
 
Well you certainly opened a great can of worms for an early to the site thread.

I can’t speak for the Tikka too much but I can rule out the Ruger Scout, and I’m certain I’ll take crap for that. I’ve owned two, great range toys and super cool rifles but you probably aren’t going to win any favour for showing up to a hunt camp with a short barrelled rifle with a muzzle brake.

Personally, everything you described sounds like lever gun territory.

I would recommend something 30-30 or 44 mag. Henry or Marlin are reasonable bang for buck (pun intended)

For short range, quick shots, and easy carry in the bush? Winchester 94 in 30-30
Need a scope? Marlin 336. Want a bit of extra power? get one in 45-70

Haha I like this, definitely a bit of extra power in the old 45-70
 
I think you’re on the right track for caliber. Personally I don’t think you can beat the 30-06 for Ontario hunting. Tons of ammo selection until you get into reloading. Lighter faster bullets for deer and you can go up to 180’s or even 200’s for moose. But if you are wanting a rifle more compact definitely 308. The 308 is quite efficient with a short barrel so you can go with something with an 18” tube without worrying of too much velocity loss. As for what model of rifle you want comes down to your personal preference and hunting style. For example if you’re hunting on and off of an atv all day then maybe you may want something with a detachable magazine. For easier loaded and unloaded as you are on and off the machine. Or for quick loading if something crosses your path. Where as if you’re walking or hiking all day a hinged floor plate would be the way to go. For me for a hunting rifle in these calibers I would want a rifle under the 7 pound mark. A heavy tactical style rifle is great for shooting off the bench but I quickly find the excess weight unnecessary and annoying when hoofing it up the hills all day. Congratulations on your pal.
 
but you probably aren’t going to win any favour for showing up to a hunt camp with a short barrelled rifle with a muzzle brake.

Is it pretty common to shoot close enough to other hunters that a muzzle brake is going to be a problem for them? Like when you guys are dogging or whatever, are multiple shooters right beside each other shooting at the same time?
 
Is it pretty common to shoot close enough to other hunters that a muzzle brake is going to be a problem for them? Like when you guys are dogging or whatever, are multiple shooters right beside each other shooting at the same time?

I’ll just edit that down because it’s besides the point, I was just commenting on it being unnecessary. Which is just my opinion.
 
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My suggestion is to find a nice old rifle with zero plastic in a common caliber. Leave the 1500$ plastic Tikkas alone.
 
I’ll just edit that down because it’s besides the point, I was just commenting on it being unnecessary. Which is just my opinion.

Ok! Wasn't trying to give you a hard time, just wouldn't know why people at the camp would take some kinda issue with it.

My suggestion is to find a nice old rifle with zero plastic in a common caliber. Leave the 1500$ plastic Tikkas alone.

Agreed, buy Tikkas when they are priced well at like $965 as they have been since Boxing day. Or $1129 for the stainless versions. The Superlite is currently $1299 on Cabelas lol. And the plastic hasn't failed here yet. Better reliability than I can say for lots of rifles that are supposed to be higher quality lol
 
Ok! Wasn't trying to give you a hard time, just wouldn't know why people at the camp would take some kinda issue with it.



Agreed, buy Tikkas when they are priced well at like $965 as they have been since Boxing day. Or $1129 for the stainless versions. The Superlite is currently $1299 on Cabelas lol. And the plastic hasn't failed here yet. Better reliability than I can say for lots of rifles that are supposed to be higher quality lol

I love my Tikkas T3 series rifles (5) All shoot Good ! Great Triggers ! Feed Excellent ! RJ

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You can't beat that.

The complaints about "plastic" etc are just about always perception vs reality.

You've got a few rifles Jim haha. By now think you've figured out what works and what don't ;P Lemme guess no parts breakages yet?
 
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