IPSC Oversight
- Thread starter arancio
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When was the last time you shot in a match ??
January 26, 2008: D
Good post, Storm -
I'm really surprised you mods let him remain based on his post history.
His "discussion" threads are doing nothing to advance the shooting sports, they've only been innuendo and pot shots at people doing volunteer work.
He hasn't shown that he has anything positive to add to this forum, he just comes on to infer slurs on others.
Some disgruntled individual who's afraid to go face to face with the people he has a problem with at the proper forum (an AGM) so he posts here anonymously hoping for other anonymous comments to back him up...sounds like grounds for a punt for me.
Kill the messenger?? Great idea! Never allow a dissenting point of view. Pretend all is well in Pleasant valley, eh?
stormbringer
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Did you glance over and perhaps miss my questions?
As I said...........for a messenger your DELIVERY SUCKS!
As I said...........for a messenger your DELIVERY SUCKS!
ARANCIO,
it sucks when you feel someone is attacking you personally......
your posts all come off that way...you have no couth....
like Stormbringer says,....your delivery sucks.
complaining about a volunteer position? your just asking for trouble.
it sucks when you feel someone is attacking you personally......
your posts all come off that way...you have no couth....
like Stormbringer says,....your delivery sucks.
complaining about a volunteer position? your just asking for trouble.
stormbringer
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- S.W. Ontario
That is the crux of the problem............He is not CLEAR what issue he has ( although it appears he has several issues of the personality disorder type.).
If I have a problem.................the individual in question has no DOUBT what so ever that that problem exists, that it is with them, and what I think should be done about it.
This sort of vague sniping from the sidlines and cheap seats serves nobody.......well prehaps Anancio's ego.
bclinehand
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stormbringer
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- S.W. Ontario
Hence the APPEARS..........my good man.
I am commenting on his ABILITY to communicate. He might be a swell guy.....but his methods make him APPEAR to be off his rocker.
Like I posted you never have to wonder what I am thinking.
What is there to AGREE with? He has not made a position clear!! Again part of his problem.
That said if it APPEARD that I was making a personal attack I do make a heartfelt appology........
Since I do not even know who this guy is.....hell he could even be a member of EESA in good standing that I shoot with on a regular basis. If so I wish he would speak up so I could wring out of him what the hell his problem is and who it is with.
I am commenting on his ABILITY to communicate. He might be a swell guy.....but his methods make him APPEAR to be off his rocker.
Like I posted you never have to wonder what I am thinking.
What is there to AGREE with? He has not made a position clear!! Again part of his problem.
That said if it APPEARD that I was making a personal attack I do make a heartfelt appology........
Since I do not even know who this guy is.....hell he could even be a member of EESA in good standing that I shoot with on a regular basis. If so I wish he would speak up so I could wring out of him what the hell his problem is and who it is with.
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IPSC needs positive people, who will do anything for the sport, not one's who feel the need to be negative towards other members of the sport, or one's who feel they need to just be "an inquiring mind". If you have a positive solution to a problem, then by all means, please feel free to add your input! Keep in mind, that ALL who are involved with IPSC are infact "shooters". Some may not have as much time as others to shoot the matches, but you will find, those are the one's who dedicate their time helping with the sport, so others can shoot, and try to better the sport, so we can all continue to shoot this great sport years from now. So I think a big THANK YOU is needed to all who make this sport what it is today! Keep in mind, that all of these people give their time for FREE. Cheers!
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I haven't been an ipsc member for a while, but... I can see how with all the work execs., are expected to do many don't have the time/energy left to actually shoot.
There's more to supporting a sport than showing up paying your match fee and shooting...
Not to worry Stormbringer, I am not a member of ESSA and I have only shot there once in 1991 or 2. Hard to remember that far back, eh? Maybe I have RO'd you at the Provincials one time or another. Hard to tell, eh?
I don't have any real problem with any individual in IPSC but situations do bother me.
Should the PMO count the ballots in the next federal election??
Ruling for too long engenders a sense of elitism and entitlement. The bureaucrats at the CFC for example.
How many of the people running the CFC are recreational shooters??
Do so many not vote because they believe the outcome is decided ahead of time?? Or do they believe that nothing will change regardless of their vote.
I see parallels in IPSC.
People volunteer for many reason, most of which are self serving on some level.
All the defensiveness I see in response to my questions is mind boggling. I am being accused of having sundry nefarious reasons for maligning persons I have not named. I am only guilty of being Politically Incorrect, as I see it.
I remain, your most humble and obedient servant,
Arancio
stormbringer
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- S.W. Ontario
Well you see....maybe your regular posts are just too short. That post makes sense and puts some meat on the bones of your argument.
As I said before people who have years and years of experience in the game but can no longer participate due to physical or time limitations still have a place in our structure I think.
Heck the fact that they get elected should be proof enough.
That said I still do not know where your anger/misstrust is directed.
Oh and I started IPSC in 1999 so there is no way you R/O'd me...
Could the election have been handled differently?
Yes.
Will it next time? I honestly hope so. But the proper venue to have that changed is this years provincials at the AGM.
Oh and CFC stooges are not elected.
As I said before people who have years and years of experience in the game but can no longer participate due to physical or time limitations still have a place in our structure I think.
Heck the fact that they get elected should be proof enough.
That said I still do not know where your anger/misstrust is directed.
Oh and I started IPSC in 1999 so there is no way you R/O'd me...
Could the election have been handled differently?
Yes.
Will it next time? I honestly hope so. But the proper venue to have that changed is this years provincials at the AGM.
Oh and CFC stooges are not elected.
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Since when did you lose your past experience or knowledge by not shooting within the last 12 months? An RO's needed knowledge of up to date rules is very different from an "oversite" position. Kinda like saying that your bachleor degree is not longer valid cause you found a job in a different field.
Let me give you a hint.. you choose someone to be on a board cause they can run the organization like a business and deal with all the business crap (Bills, Rules, classifications etc. etc) so that you can continue to "be a shooter" and not have to deal with this crap yourself. the more the board runs it as a proper business the better it is for everyone.. as for shooting related issues etc.. you have a voice, speak up and I'm sure they will listen to every person (who is a great , active shooter) who is speaking.. BUT, again, they have to run it like a business and everyone will not be happy or get thier way.. Thats a business, keeping the most people it can happy, and continue on with the sport.
run for one of those position yourself, and you will see how different your views become. you would wish you could just go back to "being just a shooter".
Mechanisms to preclude questions such as I have posited should already be in place. That is the long and the short of it. Why do so many not want such mechanisms?? Beats me.
Mechanisms to preclude questions such as I have posited should already be in place. That is the long and the short of it. Why do so many not want such mechanisms?? Beats me.
I have no clue what you are trying to say..
I you don't like the rules, or the lack of "mechanisms" stand up like a man and try to change them from within.
I would imagine that starts at the AGM.
Otherwise STFU and be happy other people are doing the legwork that allows you to compete.
The choice is yours.
I would imagine that starts at the AGM.
Otherwise STFU and be happy other people are doing the legwork that allows you to compete.
The choice is yours.
