X3...noticed that the first time I saw the poster. Loved the movie as entertainment, not history lesson. Incidentally, this was one of the first movies made exclusively by European interests and without direct Hollywood funding/direction/production. I think they did a pretty good job.
Enemy at the gates...
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What was wrong with Black-Hawk Down??
That was a movie based on fact with absolutely no flag waving............
Have the book and love it (read it a few times). Honestly though it makes it harder to watch the movie because when you know the right stuff the wrong stuff can take you right out of it. There's nothing worse in film than being really into a movie and then being ripped out of that mode by something so blatantly wrong. I don't care how good the script is, if they have tanks at the battle of Hastings I turn the movie off (extreme example I know, just making a point
)I work in the industry and have worked on a few movies where these problems have turned up. I'm convinced that you can both entertain and educate... Just takes that little bit of extra effort and there are a lot of us that try. I don't mind all the little inaccuracies, it's the terribly blatant stuff (as I said, like Flyboys with the German red tri-plane unit in 1915).
EATG was a good movie. With a little more effort it could have been a GREAT movie.
AMEN! I'm really tired of the American flag waving "we saved the world" crap. Of course they had a huge contribution but sometimes they act as if they were the only ones there...
I really wonder if there ever was such a thing as a "Major Keoning(sp?), Kommandant of the German sniper school, who was shipped on the Russian front" ... That question was never suicessfully answerted through archival records ... I'm sure Zeitzev was TOLD there was, and he killed him, he, like many Soviet snipers, were a major propaganda tool at the time after all, and the only way to fabricate a good story is to have the storie's hero believe in it .
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Intelligence was a tricky thing - it's unclear just how much could have been picked up from captured enemy soldiers (as the story goes), esp. the kind who would have been in the know.
By the way, das boot was a pretty good movie, movie-land effects or not!
Intelligence was a tricky thing - it's unclear just how much could have been picked up from captured enemy soldiers (as the story goes), esp. the kind who would have been in the know.
By the way, das boot was a pretty good movie, movie-land effects or not!
Yeah, watching the Original German version with subtitles with the volume cranked on is quite an immersive experience .... Pun intented ...
Yeah, watching the Original German version with subtitles with the volume cranked on is quite an immersive experience .... Pun intented ...
ZERSTOYER!!! TAUCHEN!! TAUUUUUCHEN!!!!!!
Ahhhh, speakers cranked, dark basement, pumps running(below sea level there) wearing and oil skin. Nothing like it
EATG was good in it's own right. I don't expect anything realistic or quality when I watch tv, so it was at least entertaining. Slowly burning copies of all the fun to watch war movies; EATG, Band of Brothers (I know, I know), Saving Private Ryan, Guns of Navarone, A Bridge too Far, Stalingrad (in german!!), Das Boot (no subtitles, no english
), Untergang (just doesn't have the same effect in english), and some others that escape me at the moment.ZERSTOYER!!! TAUCHEN!! TAUUUUUCHEN!!!!!!
Ahhhh, speakers cranked, dark basement, pumps running(below sea level there) wearing and oil skin. Nothing like it
EATG was good in it's own right. I don't expect anything realistic or quality when I watch tv, so it was at least entertaining. Slowly burning copies of all the fun to watch war movies; EATG, Band of Brothers (I know, I know), Saving Private Ryan, Guns of Navarone, A Bridge too Far, Stalingrad (in german!!), Das Boot (no subtitles, no english
Don'tt forget Memphis Belle ! ... some damned nice aircraft, guns and gear in that movie ...
I actually got to crawl around one of the aircraft used in that movie too ... I was a kid in a candy store .... 
ZERSTOYER!!! TAUCHEN!! TAUUUUUCHEN!!!!!!
Ahhhh, speakers cranked, dark basement, pumps running(below sea level there) wearing and oil skin. Nothing like it
You can actually feel the submarine, no?
EATG was good in it's own right. I don't expect anything realistic or quality when I watch tv, so it was at least entertaining.
Yep. Esp. when I sorta knew the ending.
Slowly burning copies of all the fun to watch war movies; EATG, Band of Brothers (I know, I know), Saving Private Ryan,
Worth a watch, indeed. Better than EATG, IMHO....alphabet soup.
Guns of Navarone,
Excellent author. Also, try Where Eagles Dare (even in movie form) - fantastic plot twists.
A Bridge too Far,
Good, very good. Star-studded cast. Great "bridge" scene - loving the PIAT there!
Stalingrad (in german!!), Das Boot (no subtitles, no english
Happy viewing!
Maybe try "The Wild Geese" after that, to see WW2 weapons in action past WW2.
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I actually watched the movie in the theare when it first came out, was a great experience I think I just got in high school back then (yes I went with my dad, it was a +17 movie) but it was cool. I also have the DVD, and I know it's not close to historically accurate, but it's still a good movie for me.
I think I just got in high school back then (yes I went with my dad, it was a +17 movie) but it was cool. I also have the DVD, and I know it's not close to historically accurate, but it's still a good movie for me.
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I really wonder if there ever was such a thing as a "Major Keoning(sp?), Kommandant of the German sniper school, who was shipped on the Russian front" ... That question was never suicessfully answerted through archival records ... I'm sure Zeitzev was TOLD there was, and he killed him, he, like many Soviet snipers, were a major propaganda tool at the time after all, and the only way to fabricate a good story is to have the storie's hero believe in it
His name in the movie is Major König (aka King in English)
Das Boot has an incredible dynamic range on the soundtrack. It goes from the sound of breathing to full blown "Wasserbomben" attack in split seconds. What I can't imagine is the stink of men, diesel, hydrochloric acid, rotting food etc that must have been part of the experience.
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