Model 700™ Varmint-Tactical Rifle

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Model 700™ Varmint-Tactical Rifle

I want to know more about this rifle. I had a 700 police in .308 and was getting 1/2 or better group at 100 yards. I was on the Remington website and ran across this new rifle. It has a cheep stock but I would get a nice stock for it, an H-S stock maybe. Want I was wondering is has anyone seen this rifle in action or have one? I want to get it in .223. What groups are you guys are getting with this rifle. Its cheaper then the 700police but with a good stock I think it may be a good rifle. I like the triangle barrel more surface area to displace heat. It looks weird but I am shure its a good rifle. It has the new x mark pro trigger that I like. It comes in at $730 +300 for a stock is $1030. I wonder if its a good as the mil spec. Whare do i get triangle bullets from? :)
 
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I saw on at wholesales, it look pretty weird, I rather go with the SPS tactical, it had a heavy barrel..
 
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interesting.... you'll have to cast your own triangle bullets right ?! ;)
 
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You might be alone in liking the XMark. Mine's crisp but very stiff, est 5 lbs. And the adjustment screws are covered with superglue - I hear high heat will tear that down, but I'm not doing that until I have a replacement trigger in hand.
 
andygumpers said:
I like the triangle barrel more surface area to displace heat.
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No. You have less surface area to dissipate heat to air.

The only thing is that you have less weight than a proper heavy barrel but lack the surface area increase created by concaved fluting of barrels.
 
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Winz said:
No. You have less surface area to dissipate heat to air.

The only thing is that you have less weight than a proper heavy barrel but lack the surface area increase created by concaved fluting of barrels.
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Yep, the barrel would be for weight reduction.

My friend has a remington 700 VSSF in .22-250, its a very good shooter. He can get 1/2 MOA out of it with most factory loads, he's done quite a few good 1/4 inch groups, but hasn't found the right loads to do it consistantly.

I cant say about this triangle barreled thing, i want to say that it would be less accurate than a heavy barreled version of the same profile (without the triangle cuts) due to less stiffnes..... but i definatly can not say that for sure.
 
I bought a VTR in 223 last weekend. I bought it after looking at 4 different 700 models. I was so impressed with the way it balanced, I had to leave the store with it.

Not shot it yet, I'll let you know when I do.
 
Pretty sad that you have to resort to a ####-eyed barrel shape to sell guns. Speaks volumes about who they are targeting and trying to market to.

Why not just stick with the old VSSF models and make sure that the product leaving the factory is quality and then let the guns sell themselves, instead of dreaming up some kind of pimped out futuristic gimmic. IMHO!
 
Troy G said:
Pretty sad that you have to resort to a ####-eyed barrel shape to sell guns. Speaks volumes about who they are targeting and trying to market to.

Why not just stick with the old VSSF models and make sure that the product leaving the factory is quality and then let the guns sell themselves, instead of dreaming up some kind of pimped out futuristic gimmic. IMHO!
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I really don't think Remington had to come up with a ####-eyed barrel shape to sell guns......they sell just fine;) alot of people thought the LTR flutes where a bad idea too......but they work and the gun shoots true


how did you handle the whole fuel injected thing??:dancingbanana:
 
I can't see that crappy muzzle brake method doing anything for accuracy......and is it really necessary on a .223?
 
I agree with you Hitzy..... But I can't reallly say it will hurt how it shoots. I had a brake like that on a 300 WM and it worked good


if it did work with the 223 I bet that gun don't move at all
 
Jamie said:
I really don't think Remington had to come up with a ####-eyed barrel shape to sell guns......they sell just fine
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I beg your pardon but Remington has not been doing well financially for quite some time and was acquired by Cerberus Captial Management in late spring 2007.

Are you trying to tell me that a triangle barrel shape is some accuracy enhancing technique. I must have missed all of Remingtons R and D they did proving that barrel shape was superior to a conventional tube.

Fluting a barrel has a purpose but I find it hard not to believe that Remington was going for the cool factor when they released a fluted barrel. Why go through all the trouble to flute barrels and not just make a smaller contour or weight the stock for better balance?
 
Jamie said:
I really don't think Remington had to come up with a ####-eyed barrel shape to sell guns......they sell just fine;) alot of people thought the LTR flutes where a bad idea too......but they work and the gun shoots true


how did you handle the whole fuel injected thing??:dancingbanana:
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Fluting does indeed work.

The slab cuts on this rifle allow for better manufacturing efficiency and costs management to attain a barrel with some of the characteristics of a heavier barrel minus some weight.
 
CyberK, I checked out one of those new VTR rifles at Ellwood Epps. I think they have a couple in stock of the 223 version. FYI

Scott
 
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