New-ish Nosler Ballistic Tip .458 300 grain

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Has anyone worked with this relatively new bullet from Nosler... what did you use it in? What will you use it for?

I just ran across it in a site sponsors inventory and thought it might be a nifty bullet to try in my .450 Marlin bear gun. Working up a load from 50-54 grains of H4198 @ 2.735" in Hornady Brass & WLR primers. Will get to the range soon... going to test it on a spring bear and see how the bullet holds up.
 

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woodlotowner said:
Shades of the 325 FTX. Are you using Hornady's 'short' brass with those? What's your OAL?
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I'm using Hornady short brass at an OAL of 2.735"... no problem with seating due to the narrower ogive than standard RN... this allows for a longer OAL.

One note, the standard .450 Marlin die sets come with a bullet seater for FN/RN bullets, these will push the Poly-tip back into the bullet when seating in slightly tight brass, even with a good chamfer. To rectify, I took an old Lyman .44 seater and drilled the nose cone out so that it seats against the ogive and not the poly-tip when used in my RCBS dies.
 
MiG25 said:
Be interesting to see how it performs, probably intended for the 458 Socom at <1900fps.
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I figure... their literature for this bullet is cut & paste from the other Balliatic Tip literature, talks about recommended speed of 1800 - 3200 fps and "boat tail" design... clearly not referring to this bullet... however I like the concept for a bolt action .450 Marlin... will give it a go on a bear this spring and will report from the range and the field to this thread. I loaded a batch of loads from 50.0 to 54.0 H4198 and then took a wild-azzed guess the load data was for lever action rifles and loaded up 5 rounds at 55.0 grains H4198... will watch for pressure as I approach the hotter loads, but I am not expecting problems in my Ruger M77 bolt action.
 
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I'm guessing it'll work very well, at one time the 45-90 Winchester was considered ideal for Grizzlies.
 
4fifty8 said:
Nosler lever action load data ~2300 fps mv (24" barrel). https://www.nosler.com/45-70-govt-strong-actions-only
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Hodgdon and Hornady stipulate three levels of performance pressure for .45/70, "Trapdoor," "Lever Action" and Modern (Strong) Action. Their reference for "strong" actions are Ruger No.1 and other falling blocks etc... not including lever action rifles. If you cross-reference loads from the Nosler manual and the Hornady/Hodgdon data you will see a difference in what is considered a "Strong" actions... look at IMR4198 data for comparison.
 
Try the 250 barnes if you really want some speed. My H and R really shined with 24 inch tube . H4198 was best.
RL 7 was giving me more speed with less pressure in comparison with 300 gr bullets and greater.

With the bolt action you can load C.O.A.L. out longer ? Mag length must be accommodating. Push that bullet closer to the lands and grooves , increase that internal case capacity. I like how barnes has the different ridges to crimp.
 
Big bore dinosaur said:
Try the 250 barnes if you really want some speed. My H and R really shined with 24 inch tube . H4198 was best.
RL 7 was giving me more speed with less pressure in comparison with 300 gr bullets and greater.

With the bolt action you can load C.O.A.L. out longer ? Mag length must be accommodating. Push that bullet closer to the lands and grooves , increase that internal case capacity. I like how barnes has the different ridges to crimp.
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I have a bunch of .35 cal rifles that shoot the 250 Partition and Speer, so I don't need to duplicate there. With my particular Ruger M77 Mark II, I used a 7 RM rifle for two reasons, first... I had one, second I wanted to put it in a B&C stock and they don't make a stock for the M77 Mark II Short Action. The benefit is that the COL doesn't matter, I can shoot anything, and the feeding is not impacted in any way, this rifle is extremely smooth.
 
MiG25 said:
I'm guessing it'll work very well, at one time the 45-90 Winchester was considered ideal for Grizzlies.
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I already tested this rifle on three good sized bears with the Speer 350 FN's filed down to RN's... as they meplat edge was "catching" when feeding... I have since switched to Hornady 350 RN's to avoid the filing... feeding is fast, smooth and "catch free" with the RN's.

I will get out to the range with this new load as soon as my scope comes back from Korth.
 
4fifty8 said:
Nosler lever rifle data for 300gr ballistic tip suited for loading up to ~2300 fps mv what rifle they don't specify they probably mean Marlin action strength.
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So you said.... three times... and I have probably responded sufficiently.
 
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