Whats your thoughts on 1/2" at 200 yards with Vangaurds

[manitou210]

I fdound this post hard to swallow, but I am old timer maybe it is possible?
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/1855076/page/0/fpart/5

 

[martinbns]

It\s possible, but I expect not.

 

[manbearpig]

unless you know the person, id take most group sizes posted on the net with a grain of salt.

 

[JEC]

I hear a lot of "tack driver" stories but never see many "tack driver" groups! Seems like some shooters believe that their rifle is capable of extreme accuracy because they got a few good groups one day.... There's a big difference between an occassional decent group and repeat shot accuracy over time. I haven't had one centerfire in the past five years that hasn't given me several sub 0.25" groups @ 100M ...but none of these rifles (nor me) could get that accuracy every day.
The 1/2" groups at 200yds definitely belong in a BENCHREST FORUM because we don't see many groups like that from "sporter" rifles.

 

[Win/64]

unless you know the person, id take most group sizes posted on the net with a grain of salt.

I can put 5 shots into a grain of salt at 200m.

 

[yodave]

I can put 5 shots into a grain of salt at 200m.

I'll put ten into the same salt lick after you shoot your five and oh at 300 hundred just for kicks

 

[SuperCub]

Dewd, it's the interweb. That makes it all true.

I found this quote right here on CGN. This fellow is shooting .....

sub 1/4 moa groups at 100

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[prosper]

It's possible, I suppose. I'm rather skeptical, though I wouldn't be completely floored if this gun has produced such a miracle group (3-shot, of course).

Every gun out there will produce a miracle group if you use it enough. A million monkeys on a million keyboards and all that. I once shot a 1" 3-shot group at 600 yards with my 243, but it certainly wasn't anything other than a complete fluke. And many, many of my guns will shoot <1" at 200 yards if you only count the best 3 out of 5 shots in the group - it's a very rare rifle that can do that consistently in one sitting, let alone on every sitting.

 

[Norton]

I have a 20 plus year old Vanguard in 270 win.
I've never shot a 1/2" group at 200 yards with it.
Obviously it must be a failing on my part

 

[762shooter]

Group sizes

I hear a lot of "tack driver" stories but never see many "tack driver" groups! Seems like some shooters believe that their rifle is capable of extreme accuracy because they got a few good groups one day.... There's a big difference between an occassional decent group and repeat shot accuracy over time. I haven't had one centerfire in the past five years that hasn't given me several sub 0.25" groups @ 100M ...but none of these rifles (nor me) could get that accuracy every day.
The 1/2" groups at 200yds definitely belong in a BENCHREST FORUM because we don't see many groups like that from "sporter" rifles.

I agree. A friend of mine used to talk about his groups fired from military rifles. They sounded good. Then I went to the range with him an discovered his secret. If he shot 10 shots and 2/3 of them were a pretty fair group but the other third opened the group to 3", he simply discarded the bad shots as "fliers". so his group magically went from 3" to 1.5".

My practice is that the "group" included every shot, even if I know I jerked the trigger a bit.

 

[H4831]

unless you know the person, id take most group sizes posted on the net with a grain of salt.

Add a little more salt for me, too!

 

[mylesrom]

I believe in the post, the guy refers to his Mark V rifles and not Vanguards.

 

[John Marshall]

I sighted in 3 Vanguards last year and the best I could get was .75 at 100m with no mods of any sort, from the store scope already on, dial it in and go. I thought they were great but thats a wee bit of a stretch.

I believe in the post, the guy refers to his Mark V rifles and not Vanguards.

 

[gunster-old]

1/4 minute Vanguards are a little like intelligent blondes and UFO's. I've heard about them but never seen one

 

[jiminthecorner]

Bunch Ofliars!!!!!!!! All b][/b]

 

[mylesrom]

Read the post, here is the quote from the guy who claims to shoot the groupings.

"I have a 243 ULW, a 7mm-08 SPM, and 338-06 SBGM All of them are pretty much the same thing."


NONE OF THESE ARE VANGUARDS, they are Mark V's........

The guy is still full of #### anyways....

 

[the_big_mike]

hmmm post doesn't show up for me.

 

[mylesrom]

When you go to the post, it goes to page 5, click back to page one or two and thats where this knob talks about his awesome rifles....

 

[gforce55]

Small Group with vanguard

I woud like to know what type of yardstick this dude is using???

 

[LeftFootOfDoom]

meh, thats nothin.

I'm so good that i can fire any sks, 20 rounds and have no holes!