Calgary show

I agree, recently there have been a lot more milsurps and memorabilia for sale at most gun shows.

The really good stuff gets squirreled away by younger folks now, that used to complain about the same issues.

Casual observers don't spend money, if they do, it's only if they find something at yard sale prices.

I see a hundred "casuals" often with a wife in tow who make scowling faces or hold onto the fellow's wallet and sometimes embarrass the hell out of him in front of a few dozen of his friends or people who know him if he even "casually" asks about or shows interest in a firearm, etc.

Most of the Lee Enfields we see at the shows these days are desporterised or well worn. That's life on the gun show circuit.

Why so many people get all snively because the show isn't full of their particular wants, often unobtainable or very expensive, is beyond me.

Gun shows are like the flavor of the day, but a day behind.

If you're looking for used firearms to be new in box condition and priced 50% below what it can be purchased for at the show?????????? If there ever was one, it was scooped up by another vendor and priced accordingly.

If you're going to gunshows expecting to find something specific, cheap, you have high expectations.

The fellows selling off their collections of military medals and badges put a lot of time and effort into those displays, some of which have very significant value.

I guess if you like to throw money in the garbage after someone passes because you can't be bothered to check out what's there??????

You can't take gunshows personally or believe they're being put on to meet your expectations.

Vendors only have to sell what they have.

They can't conjure up cheap primers, bullets, powder or ammo, because it's what you want.

They will sell what's available or in demand.

There was a time, only a few years ago, if you had a BSA CF2 chambered for the 7mm Rem Magnum, it wouldn't have stayed on the table longer than an hour after the show opened. Now, people want noisy, plastic stocks instead of wood and they can show up at different shows with the same vendor regularly.

The same goes for Remington ADL rifles. I now purchase these cheap, pick up some trigger guards with folding btm plates and add a couple of hundred to my overall costs. It takes an hour with a milling machine to open up the bottom of the stock, so not a bad return.

Then, there is the cost for the vendor to attend a gun show, accommodations, fuel, food, and time. It all has to be covered or there's no point in getting tables.

Some people are getting out of the game. You see them at many shows. They look online to price their stuff, then add their sentimental value. They learn soon enough no one cares if they shot their first gopher with that 60 year old Cooey and no one considers it to be an "antique".

It's a learning game on both sides of the table and the game is constantly changing

The vendors became obsolete when the internet became popular like 1999 onwards. I can find better rifles for better prices on CGN and Gunpo#% and not have to endure the body odor, stinky smell of onions frying and the obese sportsmen who can’t go five minutes without dropping an F bomb. I find it particularly annoying when someone brings their spouse that has zero interest as well. Talk about being neutered.

I have no sympathy for the vendors that haven’t found anything new and exciting. Gun shows used to have crates of minty cosmo smelling rifles for decades. Also before cabelas and many spotting stores opened it was your only chance at finding reloading components ect. Like I said the internet made these events obsolete. As a consumer, I get the most for my dollar and time. And I learned years ago attending these shows just left me feeling like is this really my group of fellow sportsmen or is this a Michigan militia and weight watchers meeting combined?

Just my thoughts and sorry if I offended anyone.
 
The vendors became obsolete when the internet became popular like 1999 onwards. I can find better rifles for better prices on CGN and Gunpo#% and not have to endure the body odor, stinky smell of onions frying and the obese sportsmen who can’t go five minutes without dropping an F bomb. I find it particularly annoying when someone brings their spouse that has zero interest as well. Talk about being neutered.

I have no sympathy for the vendors that haven’t found anything new and exciting. Gun shows used to have crates of minty cosmo smelling rifles for decades. Also before cabelas and many spotting stores opened it was your only chance at finding reloading components ect. Like I said the internet made these events obsolete. As a consumer, I get the most for my dollar and time. And I learned years ago attending these shows just left me feeling like is this really my group of fellow sportsmen or is this a Michigan militia and weight watchers meeting combined?

Just my thoughts and sorry if I offended anyone.

Rifles? Perhaps.
Obsolete/discontinued parts? Unlikely.
Sounds like you're missing the point of those shows...and I'm very far from being impressed with the existing format of this, particular show.
 
I watched you buy an old pamphlet from George. That seemed to go over well.

George had the pamphlet/brochure for the Sterling Arms Conversion of the number 4 rifles to 7.62mm. It even included the part numbers for the pieces. I was very happy with that purchase. It seems like every year George has something for me. I'm glad he is usually located so close to me. He was right accross from my tables when it was at the saddledome as well.
 
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Interesting comments from the peanut gallery. I was a vendor at this years Calgary Show, it takes a tremendous amount of work to put something like this together and I tip my hat to all the grey haired ladies and gentlemen who made it happen for the gun community. Good on you.......keep up the good work and thank you for your efforts. I enjoyed the show as I always do, myself and a bunch of grey haired guys and a few not so grey haired guys always come out from Ontario to participate. Any show can be improved upon, and I know that the people who worked on this years show were taking notes on how to improve it for next year. I sold a few small items which helped pay expenses, I had a variety of long arms on the table, but did not sell anything of any consequence, I believe it is a sign of the times. In general, my opinion is that the gun market is down, overall and will likely get worse, but that doesn't mean we should be tossing great guns in the trash or selling them for 10 cents on the dollar. I put tags on all my items but to be honest i could count on one hand how many people looked or even asked what something was valued at. That says it all.

Interestingly, many people did come over and thank us for bringing such interesting firearms, makes it all worth while.
 
The vendors became obsolete when the internet became popular like 1999 onwards. I can find better rifles for better prices on CGN and Gunpo#% and not have to endure the body odor, stinky smell of onions frying and the obese sportsmen who can’t go five minutes without dropping an F bomb. I find it particularly annoying when someone brings their spouse that has zero interest as well. Talk about being neutered.

I have no sympathy for the vendors that haven’t found anything new and exciting. Gun shows used to have crates of minty cosmo smelling rifles for decades. Also before cabelas and many spotting stores opened it was your only chance at finding reloading components ect. Like I said the internet made these events obsolete. As a consumer, I get the most for my dollar and time. And I learned years ago attending these shows just left me feeling like is this really my group of fellow sportsmen or is this a Michigan militia and weight watchers meeting combined?

Just my thoughts and sorry if I offended anyone.

You can buy "a rifle" online, but at the GS you can buy "the rifle". It really doesn't matter if you're into a shooter grade commonly available firearm, but for collectors GS offer what most of online private sellers and business don't offer - to be able to look and inspect the item the way you want. Online you often get "It's a 303/Mosin/SKS, what kind of BS extra information do you need!"
 
Interestingly, many people did come over and thank us for bringing such interesting firearms, makes it all worth while.

I've got that a few times. It does help.

I often bring one or two guns that are NFS, for display only....like the other fellow said, it's a gun show, not necessarily a gun sale.
 
Gun shows are dying off because the Liberals have changed the rules so many times now that a lot of folks simply don't want to go through the hassle of checking the rule book every time they go. Add in inflation, the job market in Canada isn't the greatest etc etc, folks just don't have the extra cash that might have been available a decade ago. I myself only go to gun shows now as an excuse to get out of the house for an hour, I only bring enough money to get in and then buy a cup of coffee. I miss the good old days of good deals at the gun shows, times have changed.
 
There's still good deals at gun shows, just maybe not what your looking for.
I'll keep going to gun shows as long as I'm able to and do appreciate the time and effort it takes to put these on and hopefully all the unhappy whiners will just stay home.

If the whiners stayed home, what would they have to whine about?
 
If the whiners stayed home, what would they have to whine about?

Lousy homes? Or unaffordable rent? Still they vote Fringe, Dipper, Liberal?

Gun shows just give them one more thing to whine/snivel about.

I saw a recent study done in Europe and it's conclusion was that WOKEISM is the source of UNHAPPINESS for most people in the study (75,000).

Taking WOKE ideals to a gun show??????????????????
 
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Lousy homes? Or unaffordable rent? Still they vote Fringe, Dipper, Liberal?

Gun shows just give them one more thing to whine/snivel about.

I saw a recent study done in Europe and it's conclusion was that WOKEISM is the source of UNHAPPINESS for most people in the study (75,000).

Taking WOKE ideals to a gun show??????????????????

Good point. (I need a hug).
 
The vendors became obsolete when the internet became popular like 1999 onwards. I can find better rifles for better prices on CGN and Gunpo#% and not have to endure the body odor, stinky smell of onions frying and the obese sportsmen who can’t go five minutes without dropping an F bomb. I find it particularly annoying when someone brings their spouse that has zero interest as well. Talk about being neutered.

I have no sympathy for the vendors that haven’t found anything new and exciting. Gun shows used to have crates of minty cosmo smelling rifles for decades. Also before cabelas and many spotting stores opened it was your only chance at finding reloading components ect. Like I said the internet made these events obsolete. As a consumer, I get the most for my dollar and time. And I learned years ago attending these shows just left me feeling like is this really my group of fellow sportsmen or is this a Michigan militia and weight watchers meeting combined?

Just my thoughts and sorry if I offended anyone.

Wow??? Just Wow???
 
You can buy "a rifle" online, but at the GS you can buy "the rifle". It really doesn't matter if you're into a shooter grade commonly available firearm, but for collectors GS offer what most of online private sellers and business don't offer - to be able to look and inspect the item the way you want. Online you often get "It's a 303/Mosin/SKS, what kind of BS extra information do you need!"

Where as at the gunshows you can get the "This Mosin was carried by Vasily Zaitsev himself!" lol
That said, I much prefer gunshows where I can look at/handle the firearms before buying. Pictures online often don't accurately show the true character of a rifle. Also, some sellers can be an absolute treasure trove of information. Downside of shows is I work shift work and my rotation has me working for all the shows this year within a 3 hour driving distance, so this year will be an online-only year for me it seems
 
At the last local gun show I attended, not long ago, I bought a VG condition pre-64 Winchester 94 in 30-30 for $500. I bought an "as new" knife for $20. that retails for over $100. I bought some rare gun books for next to nothing. I don't see the problem.

I haven't been to the Calgary show since the venue change and I understand that the show is smaller and more crowded. I am also told that the Red Deer show is a good one now.
 
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Gun show expectations differ. If it weren't for gun shows, a lot of antiques, surplus and militaria just wouldn't show up. One thing everyone can agree on is that courtesy and personal hygeine and grooming matter...on both sides of the table.;)
 
Where as at the gunshows you can get the "This Mosin was carried by Vasily Zaitsev himself!" lol
That said, I much prefer gunshows where I can look at/handle the firearms before buying. Pictures online often don't accurately show the true character of a rifle. Also, some sellers can be an absolute treasure trove of information. Downside of shows is I work shift work and my rotation has me working for all the shows this year within a 3 hour driving distance, so this year will be an online-only year for me it seems

Or, you can read about Zaitsev rifle on online ad. Hell, some dealers were selling fake SVT bayonets and advertised them as "limited run parade bayonets". Both online or at GS one needs to have the subject knowledge and filter out a lot of BS.
My point is that at the gun show you can inspect as much as want and online you're at mercy of dealer / seller willing or not to check something or make additional pictures. Of course it matters for Milsurp much more than for modern guns.
 
Yes. It was an excellent show in regards to buying and selling for me! Had a great time with my wife also who got to attend her first show behind the table with me, and also with friends from all across Canada! My purchases from StenCollector look amazing in my collection too! Already looking forward to next year!
 
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