Umarex Glock 17 prohibited or not?
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That's because they are not prohibited devices.
Less than 10 joules of power. You can look it up under airsoft and replicas section on the RCMP CFO page.
I use em to teach my neices/nephews about firearms handling and safety. Plus they really do enjoy popping soda cans with it.
... 5.7J. That's the number.
Less than 10 joules of power. You can look it up under airsoft and replicas section on the RCMP CFO page.
I use em to teach my neices/nephews about firearms handling and safety. Plus they really do enjoy popping soda cans with it.
... 5.7J. That's the number.
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The photographs often fail to illustrate the fact that - in Canada - the 'airsoft' versions are made of translucent plastic. (In many other parts of the world, the plastic isn't translucent.)
And those 'pellet' or 'bb' versions, which discharge a projectile capable of causing bodily harm, are not 'replicas'.
And those 'pellet' or 'bb' versions, which discharge a projectile capable of causing bodily harm, are not 'replicas'.
Air guns that meet the Criminal Code definition of a firearm, but are deemed not to be firearms for certain purposes of the Firearms Act and Criminal Code
These are air guns with a maximum muzzle velocity of 152.4 metres or 500 feet per second and/or a maximum muzzle energy of 5.7 joules or 4.2 foot-pounds. Such air guns are exempt from licensing, registration, and other requirements under the Firearms Act, and from penalties set out in the Criminal Code for possessing a firearm without a valid licence or registration certificate.
However, they are considered to be firearms under the Criminal Code if they are used to commit a crime. Anyone who uses such an air gun to commit a crime faces the same penalties as someone who uses a regular firearm.
The simple possession, acquisition and use of these air guns for lawful purposes are regulated more by provincial and municipal laws and by-laws than by federal law. For example, some provinces may have set a minimum age for acquiring such an air gun. For more information, please contact your local or provincial authorities.
These air guns are exempt from the specific safe storage, transportation and handling requirements set out in the regulations supporting the Firearms Act. However, the Criminal Code requires that you take reasonable precautions to use, carry, handle, store, transport and ship them in a safe and secure manner.
https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/specific-types-firearms#ag
These are air guns with a maximum muzzle velocity of 152.4 metres or 500 feet per second and/or a maximum muzzle energy of 5.7 joules or 4.2 foot-pounds. Such air guns are exempt from licensing, registration, and other requirements under the Firearms Act, and from penalties set out in the Criminal Code for possessing a firearm without a valid licence or registration certificate.
However, they are considered to be firearms under the Criminal Code if they are used to commit a crime. Anyone who uses such an air gun to commit a crime faces the same penalties as someone who uses a regular firearm.
The simple possession, acquisition and use of these air guns for lawful purposes are regulated more by provincial and municipal laws and by-laws than by federal law. For example, some provinces may have set a minimum age for acquiring such an air gun. For more information, please contact your local or provincial authorities.
These air guns are exempt from the specific safe storage, transportation and handling requirements set out in the regulations supporting the Firearms Act. However, the Criminal Code requires that you take reasonable precautions to use, carry, handle, store, transport and ship them in a safe and secure manner.
https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/specific-types-firearms#ag
Ya i got confused because i read this as well in the same area before posting here
"Air guns that are replica firearms
These are air guns not powerful enough to cause serious injury or death, but designed to resemble a real firearm with near precision. Replica firearms, except for replicas of antique firearms, are classified as prohibited devices.
In particular, some air guns commonly known as air soft guns may fall into this category. These are devices that have a low muzzle velocity and muzzle energy, and that usually discharge projectiles made out of a substance such as plastic or wax rather than metal.
An airsoft gun, firing a .20g 6mm plastic pellet with a muzzle velocity below 111.6 m/s (366 fps), and resembling with near precision an existing make and model of a firearm, other than an antique firearm, is a replica firearm and therefore a prohibited device."
I thought also the last sentence as well meant those white airsoft balls that everyone uses to shoot. ITS all jsut confusing since im new to it
TL;DR because the glock 17 airgun can hurt you but also not hurt you enough.
Replica firearm: an object that looks like a firearm, but is not a firearm. Prohibited Device
Firearm: A barreled weapon that can discharge a projectile that can seriously injure you May or not not be a controlled firearm
Uncontrolled firearm: A firearm that cannotshoot a projectile more than 5.7J or 152.4 m/s Does not require a PAL as this category is exempt from licensing
Controlled firearm: A firearm that can shoot more than 5.7J or faster than 152.4 m/s Requires a PAL
Simply put the Glock 17 airgun/airsoft can fire a projectile that can seriously injure you therefore it can't be a replica firearm. As a replica firearm looks like a firearm (a barreled weapon that can discharge a shot that can seriously injure you), but is not a firearm (If the "replica firearm" can discharge a shot that can seriously injure you it is not a replica firearm but a firearm.
The Glock 17 airgun/airsoft also is not a controlled firearm as it can't fire a projectile faster than 152.4 m/s or with more than 5.7J of energy. Therefore the Glock 17 airgun/airsoft is legally an "uncontrolled firearm" one not subject to the PAL requirement.
If Glock actually licenced the Umarex BB pistol version then I assume they wanted it out there to be a training tool for future professional (and perhaps recreational) users. I have to say I gained huge new respect for airguns when I started observing what good shots the people who were marrying into the family were if they'd been in, say, Air Cadets and had received training with pellet rifles.
I was excited to buy the Glock-licensed Umarex G19 when I first saw it in a Canadian (Bass Pro) Cabelas, but - when I got the "G19" out of the package - I wished I hadn't.
I'd intended it to be a training tool, but it wasn't.
What a piece of crap. With a different trigger, an extraneous 'safety', different magazine, different sights, and with a slide too wide to fit into most (G19) holsters, for my purposes it was completely useless.
The other Umarex versions, I haven't handled. Are they useful for training? Are they a perfect match in external dimensions? Will they fit into the (centerfire pistols') holster?
I'd intended it to be a training tool, but it wasn't.
What a piece of crap. With a different trigger, an extraneous 'safety', different magazine, different sights, and with a slide too wide to fit into most (G19) holsters, for my purposes it was completely useless.
The other Umarex versions, I haven't handled. Are they useful for training? Are they a perfect match in external dimensions? Will they fit into the (centerfire pistols') holster?
