Slickest lever action?

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Bought an 1898 manufacture Winchester 1886 .40-65 WCF just as a “why not” when it presented, and it has unexpectedly stirred a new interest. Gateway guns… I’ve always viewed my 94 inherited from my grandfather nearly thirty years ago as an heirloom more than a hunting rifle. Not that is isn’t useful, it was his Moose rifle, and he more than proved what it can do. It’s flown with me at work lots as it’s so handy and low profile, but whenever it’s time to hunt reached straight past it for the Model 70s, or double. And truth be told I still can get more shots on target, accurately that is, from a bolt gun in the same time as compared to a lever. I’m aware that’s the meat running it, not the gun, but it’s like deciding to switch to snowboarding when you’ve skied all your life.

It’s my most prized possession and the last material thing I own I’d give up, but I’ve always found it slightly awkward in use. I almost feel bad saying that as if it can hear me. It points like a wand for me, sights right where I look, and it shoots remarkably well for what it is. My misgiving is the action feel, but I’m just not practiced enough and find levers an awkward and jerky motion. That is until I picked a century and a quarter old 1886, the start of a potentially costly problem. This thing cycles much more fluidly, but I still find the ergonomics off putting. I’m wondering if a pistol grip and curved lever will help my hand position, and eliminate the odd lever stutter I induce through a more natural hand position. In particular, while the 1886 is incredibly smooth on the lever, I find it much easier to drop the muzzle slightly while cycling to avoid any lever hesitations on my part. Curious if the pistol gripped lever offer a different feel, and are better ergonomically.

Suggestions on what lever shape, and action you find slickest and most natural will be appreciated. Looking for that classic a slick as snot lever, in a useful chambering, and in a perfect world a takedown but now I’m dreaming. I imagine a custom takedown Winchester 71 as being a particularly sweet package, combining the round bottom and smoothness of the 1886 that just cocked my eyebrow into a ballistically far superior package for the West. I’m also debating a custom 10mm 1892 takedown for kicks after I saw a working .45ACP 1892 in action online, it appears rimless can work just fine.

The 1886 and 94 discussed. Now they need a new friend, I’d like to stay Winchester, but did have a JM 1894 I really enjoyed for a few years in .357 twenty years ago. One of the few guns I regret selling.

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If you like the 86, get a 92.

Just like Mausers the best are pre WWI, then pre WWII, then post WWII.
 
The 1873 can be slicked up pretty good and the 1895 takes very little effort to cycle despite its long throw due to its not having to actuate a lifter.

I also find the 1895 to feel a lot more nimble since you don't have a magazine tube or heavy profile barrel to weigh down the front end.
 
The slickest, smoothest lever action I ever handled was a Sako made rifle, many years ago.

Between 1959 and 1974, Sako produced a lever-action gun, the Sako Finnwolf, in . 243 Winchester and . 308 Winchester.
 
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The 1873 can be slicked up pretty good and the 1895 takes very little effort to cycle despite its long throw due to its not having to actuate a lifter.

I also find the 1895 to feel a lot more nimble since you don't have a magazine tube or heavy profile barrel to weigh down the front end.

Reminding me I had an 1895 briefly, .303, I was too bolt minded at the time to give it a proper shake. Good thoughts on the operation / smoothness factors. I still really think a pistol grip stock will offer me that transition towards the feel in the hands I’m comfortable with. The straight grips, I find put my hand in a less natural position, this said I’ve yet to have a pistol gripped lever gun I’m comparing from shotguns.

Did you try and operate it like the rifleman did?

Not yet, don’t have that kinda style unfortunately.

The slickest, smoothest lever action I ever handled was a Sako made rifle, many years ago.

No question, Finns no how to engineer and make.
 
I’m not really a Lever guy either, especially the Model 94 as I just can’t like it for some reason. My 1911 Model 1895 in 303 is much nicer but a 1948 Marlin 336 seems to flow when cycled and I think the pistol grip helps.
 
I find the curved lever and grip of a Winchester Model 71 is a big improvement over the 1886 for smooth cycling. I think a M71 is the slickest lever action ever. I have one with a four digit serial number which is particularly slick, likely from the years of use, but my Browning carbine and recent Miroku are great also. I love the Model 71 and wish the 348 cartridge was more available and affordable.
 
Reminding me I had an 1895 briefly, .303, I was too bolt minded at the time to give it a proper shake. Good thoughts on the operation / smoothness factors. I still really think a pistol grip stock will offer me that transition towards the feel in the hands I’m comfortable with. The straight grips, I find put my hand in a less natural position, this said I’ve yet to have a pistol gripped lever gun I’m comparing from shotguns.



Not yet, don’t have that kinda style unfortunately.



No question, Finns no how to engineer and make.


When you stroke a lever action try keeping your thumb from re gripping. Just work the lever while your supporting hand holds the rifle tight to your shoulder. Cowboy cation shooters use this technique. You miight find the straight stock is not an issue then.

Chuck Connors, the Rifleman, was 6'5" so a 92 winchester was like a toy in his hands.

Re smoothness, slicked up, and not that much tuning can make the 1866, the 1873, and the 92 winchesters and clones feel like butter.
 
There was an archaeological dig not far from here where they found either 40-60 or 40-65 cases, I can't remember off the top of my head.

10mm would be neat, but, I'd have questions about headspace and crimping to keep the bullets from setting back from magazine spring pressure. And what does it do in this application that the 357 Mag doesn't (although I have a 10mm not a 357 but that's another story)? And a rimmed cased is supposed to be 25% stronger than a rimless case. Now the 38 Super is semi rimmed...

The 32-20 is a vastly under rated cartridge and then there is the 327 Federal.
 
There was an archaeological dig not far from here where they found either 40-60 or 40-65 cases, I can't remember off the top of my head.

10mm would be neat, but, I'd have questions about headspace and crimping to keep the bullets from setting back from magazine spring pressure. And what does it do in this application that the 357 Mag doesn't (although I have a 10mm not a 357 but that's another story)? And a rimmed cased is supposed to be 25% stronger than a rimless case. Now the 38 Super is semi rimmed...

The 32-20 is a vastly under rated cartridge and then there is the 327 Federal.

Just commonality in the cabinet, on a long term project to get down to two rifle chamberings, one pistol / carbine, one shotgun gauge, one rimfire.

I was quite intrigued by what I watched on the .45 ACP 92, they were originally put together by a South American gov. Then an American smith I saw did a video on tuning it properly, he got it running and it sure was slick.
 
I find the curved lever and grip of a Winchester Model 71 is a big improvement over the 1886 for smooth cycling. I think a M71 is the slickest lever action ever. I have one with a four digit serial number which is particularly slick, likely from the years of use, but my Browning carbine and recent Miroku are great also. I love the Model 71 and wish the 348 cartridge was more available and affordable.

That’s heartening to hear. I had hoped a conventional pistol grip might solve some of the awkward hand angle I feel when running the 1886 or 94. If ever selling your 4 digit 71…

When you stroke a lever action try keeping your thumb from re gripping. Just work the lever while your supporting hand holds the rifle tight to your shoulder. Cowboy cation shooters use this technique. You miight find the straight stock is not an issue then.

Chuck Connors, the Rifleman, was 6'5" so a 92 winchester was like a toy in his hands.

Re smoothness, slicked up, and not that much tuning can make the 1866, the 1873, and the 92 winchesters and clones feel like butter.

Be a hard habit for me to break, will give it a shot.

I like the Winchester 95 myself

Nice work, my hunting next few years will be local Blacktails, or if I get a Rosie tag that too. A lever would be fun for that.
 
The slickest lever guns I've ever owned were Winchester 1892's. Much nicer cycling than any of the others I've owned which are Marlin 1895's Marlin 1894's Win 1894's, Win 1886's.

Chris.
 
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