Two Hunters Died of Rare Prion Disease

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Two Hunters Died of Rare Prion Disease. Doctors Suspect a First-of-Its Kind Deer Transmission

A new study might point to the first signs of a frightening public health scenario: Researchers found two recent cases of prion disease—universally fatal ailments caused by rogue proteins—that could have been caused by the victims eating contaminated deer meat. This connection is still far from confirmed, but doctors are calling for more research into the matter.

The report was published earlier this month in the journal Neurology. It describes the case of a 72-year-old man who visited doctors after he began to rapidly experience confusion and aggression sometime in 2022. Though he received treatment for his symptoms, which included seizures, his condition deteriorated quickly and he died just a month later. An autopsy then determined that he had developed a sporadic form of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, the most common prion disease in humans. What made the case most notable: the man had a hunting friend in the same lodge who had recently died of CJD and had eaten venison from the same deer population.

CJD and other prion diseases are caused by a misshapen form of the prion protein, which are naturally found in the brain and elsewhere (to this day, we’re not really sure what “normal” prions do). Misshapen prions can turn their normal counterparts rogue, and over time the exponential accumulation of these bad prions destroys the brain from the inside. Though it can take time, even decades, for this destruction to become apparent, there is no cure for prion disease once symptoms show up.

Other mammals can develop prion disease. Infamously, in the 1980s and 1990s, an outbreak of one such illness—bovine spongiform encephalopathy, or mad cow disease—spread widely across farms in the UK; a few years later, researchers was discovered that a small percentage of people who ate tainted cow meat contracted their own prion disease as a result, which came to be called variant CJD.

The threat of mad cow was successfully contained by the late 1990s, and only a few hundred people are thought to have gotten sick from eating contaminated meat. But another prion ailment has been spreading across deer and related animals in the U.S and Canada as of late, known as chronic wasting disease, or CWD. And the recent report authors suspect that history may now be repeating itself.

Most cases of CJD are considered sporadic, appearing out of the blue for no apparent reason. But the victim in this case was a hunter who regularly ate venison, as was his friend who died of CJD. Prion diseases in humans are incredibly rare, so the mere fact that these two cases occurred so close together is noteworthy.

“The patient’s history, including a similar case in his social group, suggests a possible novel animal-to-human transmission of CWD,” the report authors wrote.

Some studies in animals, including non-human primates, have found evidence that chronic wasting disease prions can potentially infect and sicken humans, while other research has come to the opposite conclusion. So the possibility of cross-species transmission remains plausible, if still unproven. Much like bacterial and viral diseases, there is a wide variety in the strains of prions that can make humans and animals sick. Although the man was diagnosed with a specific type of sporadic CJD, the doctors argue that more detailed testing would be needed to confirm whether the man’s prions were unlike the prions seen with CWD.

There have been other isolated reports of human CJD tied to the consumption of deer (and even squirrel) meat. These cases alone aren’t enough to prove that deer can be a vector of prion disease in humans, but the report authors say more has to be done to know for sure. “This cluster emphasizes the need for further investigation into the potential risks of consuming CWD-infected deer and its implications for public health,” they wrote.

https://gizmodo.com/chronic-wasting-disease-deer-meat-prions-hunter-deaths-1851423216
 
This got pretty wide coverage when it was first reported last month. Field and Stream did an article for instance, and there was definitely a thread on CGN where all the real scientists showed up to tell us this is all bull####.

https://www.fieldandstream.com/conservation/study-cwd-fatal-human-disease-link/

Its entirely possible this is purely coincidence, they have only shown that two people connected via hunting both died from CJD, but CJD effects ~350 people yearly in the US so its not like nobody EVER gets it. With only 350 cases in a year the chances of two of them hunting out of the same lodge being purely coincidental is EXTREMELY small (but not zero.) I'm certainly not about to willingly eat CWD positive deer just in case.
 
The BC Regulations have talked about CWD being present in several animals in BC, so this is always a possibility. Cooking the meat doesn't destroy prions. I've passed up harvesting deer that seem confused or sickly, and others should too.
 
The BC Regulations have talked about CWD being present in several animals in BC, so this is always a possibility. Cooking the meat doesn't destroy prions. I've passed up harvesting deer that seem confused or sickly, and others should too.

Its tough. I don't want to harvest a confused or sickly looking deer for obvious reasons, but I don't really want to leave them on the landscape to spread CWD around either. No good options, especially when testing takes a while to get back results, you can only test a dead deer, and you're punching a tag (of which you only get a limited number each year) if you pull that trigger.
 
Where's the evidence that 2 Hunters caught CWD from eating an infected Deer? Right, there is none.

You guys'll believe anything.

Totally. That is why my first post has me saying "Its entirely possible this is purely coincidence".


You on the other hand, WILL believe anything. You think the red #### coming out of a steak at the supermarket is blood. GTFO you ignorant fool.
 
Totally. That is why my first post has me saying "Its entirely possible this is purely coincidence".


You on the other hand, WILL believe anything. You think the red #### coming out of a steak at the supermarket is blood. GTFO you ignorant fool.

We've discussed this at length already.
 
How long have people been eating deer meat?

Just fearmongering nonsense to discourage people from eating meat. Bull####.
 
Correct.

There is absolutely NO correlation between prion diseases and the One Trick Pony suggestions that covid shots created ALL of our current medical anomalies. As in ZERO. Nada. Nothing Sandwich. Period.

But One Tricks have to One Trick...

Tell us you are vaccinated without telling us you are vaccinated... double down, triple down, quadruple down...
 
How long have people been eating deer meat?

Just fearmongering nonsense to discourage people from eating meat. Bull####.
Longer than people have been medicating them.

Spayvac has been testing lipid nanoparticle delivered, protein producing contraceptive vaccines in deer for some time now, plus whatever other pharmaceuticals are used in various deer populations. Wisconsin's Spayvac are partnered with B.C.'s BioVaxys Technology Corp. Antibodies are proteins, prions are malformed proteins, malformed antibodies are prions.
https://spayvac.com/about/

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/e...nd-wildlife/immunocontraception-factsheet.pdf
Immunocontraception – Immunocontraception is the use of vaccines to produce antibodies that target the reproductive system or its function. The most tested approach uses PZP (pig zona pellucida) proteins to produce antibodies that attach to the surface of the eggs of treated females and prevent sperm from fertilizing the egg; PZP vaccines are ineffective on males. PZP vaccines do not change normal behaviour, but may extend the breeding season with females coming into heat for more cycles since they do not become pregnant. Another type of vaccine, GonaCon®, produces antibodies that interfere with normal ###ual development at the hormonal level; however, the duration of efficacy of GonaCon® is too short (only about 1 year) to be very useful.The most promising contraceptive vaccine is SpayVac®, a PZP vaccine developed in Canada. SpayVac® is highly effective in deer, lasting several years (up to 6 years) with a single dose. Other PZP vaccines require boosters, increasing the technical challenges, risks to the deer, and the costs. PZP vaccines are advocated by a number of animal welfare groups, including the Humane Society of the US. None of these vaccines are licenced in Canada and are accessed only through an experimental permitting process from Health Canada.
 
How about when antibodies fold the spike protein?
Antibodies attach to and transport the spike protein, protein folding and unfolding occur in the mitochondria. I am unaware of antibodies that have the ability effect proteins at the peptide or amino acid level.
 
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