IWI Tavor 7
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Small steps.
Personally, I like the Riton scope. Works just fine. I'll up my optics game eventually, but for now I'll just get used to my new range toy.
Everyone loves to point out the MOA on th T7 which I find hilarious. Buddy, it's a battle rifle not a precision rifle. It can kill just as good as anything else. Right now Canada and the world is on the brink of war. This is the only affordable semi 308 gun we have in Canada. MOA means nothing here smh
I'm convinced this is a 1.5-2 MOA gun. Any limitations really being the cartridge rather than the rifle. I'll have more time on hand in a few weeks (I hope) and plan to get back behind the T7. A better sear pack giving an AR15 type trigger feel and break would most certainly help to getting to what the rifle can do. 3.5-4# break would be wonderful.
The 308W is capable of excellent accuracy, way better than 1.5moa. A 2moa rifle is not limited by the 308W cartridge.
While I have not ever held a T7, I do have some experience with both the original Tavor and the X95. My X95 has the complete Giessele trigger and it is nothing like a good AR15 trigger and I doubt anything could ever make it like a good AR15 trigger. The trigger goes a long way to the contribution of accuracy of a rifle.
RANGE REPORT:
- Trigger’s not bad.
- converted into left hand shooting with ease.
- had failure to extract, with empty casings getting smashed at the neck. Have to drop the mag and clear the rounds (both the smashed empty casing and the live chambered round).
- accuracy is decent.
Will be visiting the range again today. Gonna take 3 x 308’s; my Arisaka, my Tavor and my Garand. The Garand was crazy accurate when I shot it last week Sunday. Tight groupings!!
- Trigger’s not bad.
- converted into left hand shooting with ease.
- had failure to extract, with empty casings getting smashed at the neck. Have to drop the mag and clear the rounds (both the smashed empty casing and the live chambered round).
- accuracy is decent.
Will be visiting the range again today. Gonna take 3 x 308’s; my Arisaka, my Tavor and my Garand. The Garand was crazy accurate when I shot it last week Sunday. Tight groupings!!
What type of ammo were you using when you had the failure to extract? Any idea what caused the failure to extract?
The Garand and the M14 were really built as marksman's rifles. A lot about those designs is really great for marksmanship. Modern rifles are not built that way.
T-7 range report update...she can shoot! There is still a lot that needs to be done. I'm convinced my scope mount is too low, and while the trigger is not bad, it could be better. Below is me pulling two rounds after stacking 3 on top of each other at 100m. Conservatively, this is a 2 MOA gun, but here's the bad news, I found that it will only shoot like this with a warm barrel which is a really bad deal for a hunting rifle. 
I don't know why, but the rifle will print 2-3 MOA low, then will settle in after about 15 rounds fairly quickly shot, no cool down between strings.
I don't know why, but the rifle will print 2-3 MOA low, then will settle in after about 15 rounds fairly quickly shot, no cool down between strings.
I have a Tavor 7 on the way and was wondering about scope mounting height. My understanding is that the Tavor 7 rail is higher than the X95?
I've have a 1.93" mount on my X95 that is about perfect, but it took a while to figure that out and so I'm hoping to get it right the first time with this rifle. I have read some folks saying 1.7" as a minimum, while others finding AR height accetpable?
Although the x95 and T7 look very similar, they are quite different in weight and geometry. The Top rail on the T7 is much closer to the bore than the x95.
I have a tall 1.93" mount and it needs more height. Even with the tall mount my head is canted on top of the stock slightly (a horrible situation for accuracy), I'm still climbing around a bit behind the scope. No bueno.
Let us know the goldilocks height when you find it!
I have my eyes on this...https://www.rdsc.ca/optics-mounts/u...actical-fast-lpvo-scope-mount-30mm-black.html
Thanks for this!
I have received the Tavor 7 now, and while not an exact measurement by any means it appears that the T7 rail is about a 1/4" inch higher than on my X95. If this is the case I am tempted to try the 2.05" mount on the X95 and the 1.93" on the Tavor 7. "Ah ####, here we go again".
As I suspected, I like the 1.93" on the Tavor 7.
I quite like shooting 308 and having it in this compact (if chunky) package is pretty sweet and brings a giant smile to my face. Softer shooting than I expected, although with a muzzle rise that is familiar to me as an X95 owner. I can see this coming along on wilderness/backcountry trips as a result of its compactness and overall versatility. There is also something utilitarian feeling about Tavors that I like, like they can take the abuse. I'm getting about 3MOA with bulk ball. While the stock trigger is better than stock X95, having done the trigger upgrade on the X95 I found myself wanting more of that, so the shooting sight trigger pack is on its way. I sort of expect to be able to get groups closer to 2MOA with the right ammo and a lighter trigger helping my form, but 3 MOA is totally fine to me for its use-case.
My 2 cents about the T7 accuracy. You can achieve 1.5 moa accuracy once in while, but there is now way you can dot it consitently. this gun is at best a 2.5 moa rifle and I challenge anybody to show me multiple 5 shots string lower than that. Btw I love the platform but im not lying to myself.
