Kids hunting rifle

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jungleannie

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good evening.

two of my kids have expressed an interest in hunting, looking for opinions on a started rifle for them based on real world knowledge.
they are 13 and 9 they have never shot anything before. would a .22 be to small for dear? something better with little to no recoil?
 
If you mean a .22LR then it's illegal everywhere in Canada. If you mean a .223 then yes it's legal in BC and maybe other provinces and is a reliable killer of deer.

Legal I think everywhere in Canada with similar recoil to a .223 is the 6.5 Grendel. Not as many rifle and ammo options but it's an excellent killer with little recoil.
 
Just to be sure and to be more versatile, maybe a 7mm08 or 243 or 6mm Remington…. But really if they never shot anything before a 22lr would be the best way to get them started and to teach them proper form, handling and safety!
 
Ive got two CVA scout take-down SS. One is a compact for the wife/kids in 243win. Single shot with exposed hammer. It’s heavy enough to help tame some recoil, but not too heavy to carry. Easy to take care of/clean. Break action carries nicely. The blued version is affordable, but I think loose the take-down ability.
 
Pay attention to calibers suggested.
7-08 is very expensive and 6mm isn't as available as other calibers, and if the kids are learning your going to need a lot of ammo for them to become proficient.

243 100 grain ammo is available at any shop that sells ammo and not overly pricey , also the recoil would be manageable by that age group..

Being August and deer season a short 10 weeks away, is hunting this year for them a realistic goal ?
 
FatCatsDad said:
Pay attention to calibers suggested.
7-08 is very expensive and 6mm isn't as available as other calibers, and if the kids are learning your going to need a lot of ammo for them to become proficient.

243 100 grain ammo is available at any shop that sells ammo and not overly pricey , also the recoil would be manageable by that age group..

Being August and deer season a short 10 weeks away, is hunting this year for them a realistic goal ?
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Depending on hunting style, it’s doable. For bear hunting over bait I just set up my wife exactly the same as she would experience in the field. Same blind, chair, rest, range, practiced near last light. From the get go every round was in the kill zone. No point in expecting proficiency at everything all at once if they’re only hunting one way.
 
FatCatsDad said:
Pay attention to calibers suggested.
7-08 is very expensive and 6mm isn't as available as other calibers, and if the kids are learning your going to need a lot of ammo for them to become proficient.

243 100 grain ammo is available at any shop that sells ammo and not overly pricey , also the recoil would be manageable by that age group..

Being August and deer season a short 10 weeks away, is hunting this year for them a realistic goal ?
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i dont think hunting this year is going to happen for them. i am still waiting for my PAL so kinda hard to get them any experience shooting anything right now.

I will look into the 243 thanks for the feedback so far
 
Jimbobob08 said:
Depending on hunting style, it’s doable. For bear hunting over bait I just set up my wife exactly the same as she would experience in the field. Same blind, chair, rest, range, practiced near last light. From the get go every round was in the kill zone. No point in expecting proficiency at everything all at once if they’re only hunting one way.
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Your scenario sounds like you've got experience and knowledge where as the OP does not even have a PAL , no mentoring, and little to no knowledge of hunting.
My thoughts go to the animals in these cases rather than the people.

It sounds like 3 people with zero proficiency and zero field experiences are heading out to shoot a deer, and my thoughts are that a bad shot being made leaving a wounded , disabled, maimed animal wandering around suffering have greater odds than a clean shot in the vitals.

Hopefully there is a lot of knowledge that will be sought out and soaked up by all 3 before attempting to harvest game.
 
my Son is 14 now, he was 13 an i got him the Zastava 7.62x39 an i used it for little Deers out to 200 meters with a 150gr... could use 123 over in Canada an it would be fine for deers an stuff.

not as snappy as the .243 an stuff, but it was noticably more recoil than the .222 when i slow mo filmed him shooting.... he will be good for it from now on i rekon.

i load the 150s to max.
 
FatCatsDad said:
Your scenario sounds like you've got experience and knowledge where as the OP does not even have a PAL , no mentoring, and little to no knowledge of hunting.
My thoughts go to the animals in these cases rather than the people.

It sounds like 3 people with zero proficiency and zero field experiences are heading out to shoot a deer, and my thoughts are that a bad shot being made leaving a wounded , disabled, maimed animal wandering around suffering have greater odds than a clean shot in the vitals.

Hopefully there is a lot of knowledge that will be sought out and soaked up by all 3 before attempting to harvest game.
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i missed that.
 
I would start them with a .22lr. Its every future hunters right of passage. It’s a great staring rifle to let them get used to and be comfortable with handling a firearm. Let them learn the basics of gun handling, safety and shooting with those, then move up to bigger calibers and bigger game.

The next step in the evolution would be like a .223 or .243. (For bigger game)

One of the best years of my life was as a youth when my brother and I were gifted our first rifles- Lakefield .22’s. Spring,summer,fall winter, we were never seen the entire year, we were out target shooting or hunting gophers and rabbits. Most nights you could find us stripping them down and cleaning them, just like we had watched our father do with his big game rifles. Now we were men. I still have that little gun.
 
FatCatsDad said:
Your scenario sounds like you've got experience and knowledge where as the OP does not even have a PAL , no mentoring, and little to no knowledge of hunting.
My thoughts go to the animals in these cases rather than the people.

It sounds like 3 people with zero proficiency and zero field experiences are heading out to shoot a deer, and my thoughts are that a bad shot being made leaving a wounded , disabled, maimed animal wandering around suffering have greater odds than a clean shot in the vitals.

Hopefully there is a lot of knowledge that will be sought out and soaked up by all 3 before attempting to harvest game.
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Unless there is some mentorship to get them started, the odds are against them hunting successfully in the near future.
 
As it happens, MilCun is offering a Hunter Marksmanship Weekend Course Sept 7th -8th.
An outstanding opportunity for beginning hunters to learn the basics of shooting and hunting.
Arrangements can even be made to have appropriate firearms available.
 
FatCatsDad said:
Your scenario sounds like you've got experience and knowledge where as the OP does not even have a PAL , no mentoring, and little to no knowledge of hunting.
My thoughts go to the animals in these cases rather than the people.

It sounds like 3 people with zero proficiency and zero field experiences are heading out to shoot a deer, and my thoughts are that a bad shot being made leaving a wounded , disabled, maimed animal wandering around suffering have greater odds than a clean shot in the vitals.

Hopefully there is a lot of knowledge that will be sought out and soaked up by all 3 before attempting to harvest game.
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you good sir would be correct on the fact that I dont have any hunting experience, firearms experience with the exception of pellet guns, and no i do not yet have my PAL. But i have completed my PAL course as well as my hunter accreditation course.

I also have a small group of more experianced hunters that I will be hunting with untill i learn the ropes myself.

If you have any usefull or constructive information I would love to hear it, If not your post is poitless
 
tiriaq said:
As it happens, MilCun is offering a Hunter Marksmanship Weekend Course Sept 7th -8th.
An outstanding opportunity for beginning hunters to learn the basics of shooting and hunting.
Arrangements can even be made to have appropriate firearms available.
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Thank you for the information.

Do you know if having a PAL in neccesary for the course? I am still in the 28 day waiting period untill mid september
 
jungleannie said:
Thank you for the information.

Do you know if having a PAL in neccesary for the course? I am still in the 28 day waiting period untill mid september
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I do not believe so. There is supervision of participants. Send an email to Linda if you wish specific information. This is a first class 2 day program taught by very experienced instructors.
 
jungleannie said:
you good sir would be correct on the fact that I dont have any hunting experience, firearms experience with the exception of pellet guns, and no i do not yet have my PAL. But i have completed my PAL course as well as my hunter accreditation course.

I also have a small group of more experianced hunters that I will be hunting with untill
If you have any usefull or constructive information I would love to hear it, If not your post is poitless
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You are quoting a post that was not directed at you.
 
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