WORST range trip ever... broken gun with PICS!!

timothydgordon

timothydgordon

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Okay, so I get four shots of American Eagle 124 grain full metal jacket 9mm out of my Taurus PT92AFS that I proudly bought here on the exchange and well, it fails to eject after the fourth trigger pull of the first mag. Okay, I rack the slide as I'm sure it didn't eject but the slide is stiff and won't open. I now avoid panic by knowing this isn't life or death, I keep the pistol pointed in a safe direction and just stay there, I pull the trigger one more time to try and clear the chamber but nothing. Still holding the pistol in a safe direction I bring my target mover closer and I see exactly four holes on the paper. I have now analytically decided that the round stuck inside my pistol is indeed a non-ejected piece of brass. I put my Taurus back in it's box and decide that it needs a trip to the smiths. I take it out to examine it one more time but this time I try to strip it and slide pops off, I remove the recoil spring and guide rod to find the locking block is broken in such a way that it is preventing the barrel from being removed from the slide, I can also see my non-ejected piece of bass. I slowly work the broken piece of steel until I can get the barrel free and pick at the empty 9mm cartridge until it pops out. I then go home in dismay and turn on my computer to post all about it and find out how I am going to get my pistol serviced by Taurus' so called lifetime warranty that doesn't seem to be valid for Canadians. However, before I can do any of this windows Vista gives me an annoying pop-up saying "You have come to a sad realization, allow or cancel."

Yep, between getting screwed on the EE and now having my locking block break on one of my treasured pistols, I'm due for some luck,
Tim.

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Sorry to hear that you've got a tough run of luck on the EE. Sometimes when it rains it pours (sh@t happens), and I think it's safe to say that everyones gone through something similar. Good luck with the gun and maybe someone on this site could point you in a better direction.
 
If I remember from all the old magazines I read in the 90's this is a fundamental weak point in the falling locking block design of the Beretta 92 design. Not epidemic but it does happen from time to time.
 
BKP99 said:
If I remember from all the old magazines I read in the 90's this is a fundamental weak point in the falling locking block design of the Beretta 92 design. Not epidemic but it does happen from time to time.
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I have researched this more and can confirm that this is a problem with most Taurus PT92's and older Beretta 92's. Taurus continues to use the same design where as Beretta has improved upon the locking block. I have looked into a replacement locking block made by Beretta that is the improved style and have found that they're fully compatible with Taurus pistols.
 
Slavex said:
meh, $40 part, just order a new one from Dave Olhasso in the USA.
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Thank-you a simple search for Dave Olhasso on google yielded: LB-100 Locking Block Assembly (locking block, pin, plunger) $62

Which is perfect, I'll (FRAUD ALERT) him sometime next week and report if this part indeed does work no problem with my Taurus.
 
ah, sorry, didn't get the price right. you should be happy with the new block though.

As for this being the weak point of the 92 design, well that's debatable, as this is a part that's designed to be replaced, it is a wear part and should be replaced at regular intervals. Much cheaper than a new barrel, like you have to do with Glocks, or other guns that use that style of locking block. And yes those break, it's quite common.
 
ilovepotatos said:
Well...this is some kind of a lesson.

Taurus 92's are half the price of Beretta 92's for a reason...
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Not so, this is a problem with older Berettas too. How old, I don't have an exact date but I know that it is within the past six years that this new and improved locking block has come out for Beretta.
 
Slavex said:
ah, sorry, didn't get the price right. you should be happy with the new block though.

As for this being the weak point of the 92 design, well that's debatable, as this is a part that's designed to be replaced, it is a wear part and should be replaced at regular intervals. Much cheaper than a new barrel, like you have to do with Glocks, or other guns that use that style of locking block. And yes those break, it's quite common.
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No way! Don't be sorry, thanks so much for the information, people on the Taurus forum don't even know about this website!!

I really think your view on the locking block being a moving part and high stress part makes sense and actually makes me feel less worse about this problem. I haven't heard or seen any problems with the structural integrity of the Glock barrels where as this problem seems to be one of those "AGH! It happened to me" problems with the Beretta's and Taurus pistols. I am however surprised that this problem isn't better documented especially as I've found cases of peope breaking their replacement locking block that came from Taurus.
 
timothydgordon said:
Thank-you a simple search for Dave Olhasso on google yielded: LB-100 Locking Block Assembly (locking block, pin, plunger) $62

Which is perfect, I'll (FRAUD ALERT) him sometime next week and report if this part indeed does work no problem with my Taurus.
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You need to email David before purchasing if you are out of the USA, as per rules on his site. I've emailed him twice in the past regarding parts and never got a reply, so took my business elsewhere. Not sure if he is busy or just doesn't want to deal with international shipments anymore, but just so you are aware.
 
timothydgordon said:
Which is perfect, I'll (FRAUD ALERT) him sometime next week and report if this part indeed does work no problem with my Taurus.
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Please don't use (FRAUD ALERT) if you can help it. They're anti-gun and we shouldn't be putting money in their pockets. Hopefully you can just call and use a credit card over the phone or something...
 
CanFire said:
Please don't use (FRAUD ALERT) if you can help it. They're anti-gun and we shouldn't be putting money in their pockets. Hopefully you can just call and use a credit card over the phone or something...
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I know some gunnuts are anti-(FRAUD ALERT) and now I know why. Thanks for the heads-up, I certainly will not (FRAUD ALERT) him the money.
 
M_A_T_T said:
You need to email David before purchasing if you are out of the USA, as per rules on his site. I've emailed him twice in the past regarding parts and never got a reply, so took my business elsewhere. Not sure if he is busy or just doesn't want to deal with international shipments anymore, but just so you are aware.
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Thanks! I did email him but have as of yet to receive a response, I may just call him shortly.
 
My girlfriend had the same problem with her Beretta 92G today (March 8, 2008). The locking block busted. It looks very similar to yours, except it is the opposite corner that broke off. The weird thing was, she didn't notice it until she broght the gun home and field stripped it. I wonder if she broke it on the last shot of the day? Seems improbable. The only other explanation is that it broke on another shot, but continued to function. She didn't notice a malfunction.

This is the $550 VPD ERT surplus 9mm. When you buy a used Beretta 92/96 and keep shooting it a lot, I guess this will happen sooner or later. She has had this for.. maybe a year and a half. She has shot it alot in that time, and it really has been a very nice pistol. It competes with anything else we have owned for accuracy. It's also very reliable if maintained properly. She's going to order one of these locking block kits from the U.S. as well. It's not even worth asking anybody in Vancouver for gun parts in my experience. The only exception being Joe Dlask + parts for 1911's, AR's, 870's, etc. Some store have a little bit of parts for really common stuff - GLOCK 17/22 parts and stuff like that - but generally it is not worth asking. Gotta go to the internet and find out who really has it.
 
BKP99 said:
If I remember from all the old magazines I read in the 90's this is a fundamental weak point in the falling locking block design of the Beretta 92 design. Not epidemic but it does happen from time to time.
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The Walther design might be more accurate. I think it was first employed on the P-38 and yes they are known to break on that gun too.
 
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