what torque For a Win 70 push feed
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FatCatsDad
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I snug that center screw to around 15 inch lb's, and 30-35 on the rear and 30-35 on the front of my wood stocked 70 without pillars.
I'd go 40 with pillars. But still 15 on the middle.
I've never used loctite on action screws.
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Advice given from a highly skilled gunsmith is what I would follow. Baby blue242 is the deal for screws that you don’t want coming loose. It’s not permanent like some of the other grades. Used routinely on scope bases and pic rails. Great advice from both members
FatCatsDad
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Just some other info I've learned.
According to loctite salesman that gave a lunch break seminar on the shop floorI years ago, loctite, be it purple, blue or red does not affect torque values.
If your using loctite torque to dry values.
I've read alot of things that say reduce torque values by 20% if using loctite.
I experimented years ago by torquing machine screws of two different thread pitches. First was 10/32 and second was 6/40. I cleaned the female and male parts with alcohol and let them dry. I torqued the 10/32 with 20 inch pounds and the 6/40 with 15 inch pounds. I put index marks on the screw heads and the steel they were threaded into . I removed the screws and repeated with the blue locktite. When I torqued them at the same values the index marks were in the same place! I have no way of telling if after the locktite cures it actually increases the torque value. My torque wrench warns against loosening fasteners with it! Not very conclusive an experiment and if the manufacturer gives advice on use then I’d follow their recommendations. I do not use locktite on action screws either.
FatCatsDad
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Torque values affect accuracy.
Some 5ft guys with dainty little hands and skinny arms have a different "snug" than a 250 pound 6 footer.
Snug is just a meaningless measurement.....no offense....
Ya, I understand that. Usually these M70s are around 60 in-lbs at the front and back, and 45ish in the middle, but for a hundred years before the average hunter kept a torque wrench, a set of calipers and a laser level in their backpack thinking those tools were going to fix their lousy shooting, "just snug enough" was always just fine.
It's not a benchrest rifle - it's a hunting rifle - if a guy can hit even a 12"x12" square off the shoulder at 100 yards, the gun is plenty accurate. No need to get into torque values and all that.
... just my opinion ... and no offense intended.
FatCatsDad
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45 inch pounds on the center screw will crack the leading edge of the trigger guard, and 60 is almost double recommended values.
Hitting a 12x12 square can mean a belly shot or complete miss on that Buck if a lifetime instead of the proper placement.
Maintaining your gun properly is not hard, there's no reason at all to ½ ass it.
Having worked with chemical locks a great deal, I have to say that is salesmanship. They are applied as a liquid, which changes the torque. Not by a lot true, but it is definitely a change. - dan
The front screw, pretty damn tight. The rear screw, not quite so tight. The middle screw, just enough to hold the trigger guard in place. The only time the middle screw should have any noticeable torque, is if the action has been bedded in such a way as to use the center screw as part of the bedding system.
