F.A.I.R 20 bore.

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Well I had my new Jubilee Prestige 20 bore out this morning for a hunt. I’m very impressed. This one originated out of the April 2024 Holts auction. These are just a good feeling great handling gun and are quite classy.
 

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They’re nice guns. I have a Jubilie Presteige Tartaruga Gold in 20/28 combo. I don’t shoot it much anymore but it has run trouble free for about 7000 rounds through the 28 barrels and around 4000 rounds through the 20 barrels.
I was unsure which prestige model this was at first because they had it mislabeled. But I think I did alright in the end. I’ll probably pick up another set of chokes for it over the winter. I’ll be using it for sporting clays. And some upland.
 
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I don’t know how often you shoot sporting clays but in my opinion these are not what I would consider to be high volume guns. I don’t mean to say that it won’t last a long time, it’s just not a 20,000 round per year gun. It is however an excellent choice for upland game!
 
My sporting clays intended use is fairly low. Maybe six or seven times a year. Besides if I get really into it and want to shoot more than a few times a month I’ll just buy another gun.


I don’t know how often you shoot sporting clays but in my opinion these are not what I would consider to be high volume guns. I don’t mean to say that it won’t last a long time, it’s just not a 20,000 round per year gun. It is however an excellent choice for upland game!
 
Wish FAIR was more accessible in Canada. I talked to them about it and they said they've had many complaints about their dealer but seem unwilling to address the issue
Exactly! Dealing once with their importer/dealer, was an experience that myself and many others will never forget. No matter how good their shotguns are, I won't repeat that experience.
 
I refused to order thru their Canadian supplier. Sad as I really wanted to order 4 guns
A friend and I ordered two shotguns. We put down 50%, and both orders were messed up, the stock dimensions were both wrong. We were given the choice of taking the guns as is, or losing our deposit. Similar situations have happened to multiple people that I spoke with.
 
I’d make an example of them if there’s nothing in the fine print protecting them. That’s what small claims courts are for.

A friend and I ordered two shotguns. We put down 50%, and both orders were messed up, the stock dimensions were both wrong. We were given the choice of taking the guns as is, or losing our deposit. Similar situations have happened to multiple people that I spoke with.
 
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A friend and I ordered two shotguns. We put down 50%, and both orders were messed up, the stock dimensions were both wrong. We were given the choice of taking the guns as is, or losing our deposit. Similar situations have happened to multiple people that I spoke with.
How difficult is it to get measurements right anyway. I always thought a gun fitting chart was pretty straightforward. And then to deny any responsibility that’s just sad.
 
How difficult is it to get measurements right anyway. I always thought a gun fitting chart was pretty straightforward. And then to deny any responsibility that’s just sad.
The measurements listed on the sheets that came with the shotguns didn't match the measurements on the order sheets, but he didn't care, because he had our 50% down. We would have settled for replacement shotguns or a refund, but he wouldn't consider either. Had I been retired then, I would have taken him to small claims court, but at the time, were were both very busy, and taking the time to go to court, would have cost us a considerable amount.
 
Same thing happened to me, the order was messed up and he wouldn’t stand good for it. Said that he kept impeccable notes, nothing about him writing down his notes wrong though. That was my last dealings with him.
I run my own company as well, and detailed notes are a must when you take in back to back custom orders in the volumes I do per year. When your a custom arms maker you take detailed notes, and before you start to produce the item you message your clients to touch base two weeks in advance and make any notes on changes they might want. I take pride in it. So when I see another business that fails in that regard and won’t own up to their mistakes, I see a business that’s poorly run, by someone who doesn’t take pride in supplying a quality product and service.
This just confirms my opinion of them as well after dealing with them a few times in the last few years. Just a disappointment.
 
Same thing happened to me, the order was messed up and he wouldn’t stand good for it. Said that he kept impeccable notes, nothing about him writing down his notes wrong though. That was my last dealings with him.
When we compared the original order sheets with the sheets that came with the shotguns, and they didn't match. So whether he made the mistake or FAIR made the mistake shouldn't matter, a reputable dealer would have made the situation right. And the fact that FAIR has received many complaints, and yet still keeps him as their distributor, says a lot about FAIR as well.
 
I have never had an issue with them when ordering anything fro Bilozir.
I know lots of people won't have anything to do with Cabelas either ( I am one of those people) but lots have no problem doing business with them.
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