Crusader Arms Crypto

Tvw said:
Looks great! What barrel did ya go with and what hand guard is that?
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Its a 18.6inch 5.56 BCL barrel i had on my BCL SLR Coyote (gray area possibly banned) that i reused on this with a "Super M-LOK Handguard" 17inch variant from TNA with added full lenght picatiny rail (mosty for look, as most of it is unused).
 
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JasonGTA said:
I got a stripped receiver set so I did it before assembly. All you would need to do is remove the mag release. which only takes a few seconds to do



Use stanag mags.....
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Thanks for that. I’ll pull it he release off. I agree, I was all prepared for using the mags but they’re crap. 2 out of 6 mags came with retention problems. Otherwise, no complaints so far with the rifle itself.
 
What’s everyone’s consensus so far?

Build one out of the stripped receiver, or buy a whole rifle?

Cost effectiveness? Things to replace if you go full rifle?

Itching to get into one of these but there’s just so much uncertainty lmao
 
Sigh said:
What’s everyone’s consensus so far?

Build one out of the stripped receiver, or buy a whole rifle?

Cost effectiveness? Things to replace if you go full rifle?

Itching to get into one of these but there’s just so much uncertainty lmao
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If you don't have an AR sitting around, go for the full rifle. The $1k higher price over the receiver set is peanuts. There is a thread what you have to buy (basically everything) and you will end up at well over $3K. You can always improve the rifle at a later stage if you really like it and want to keep it. As to magazines, I would just cut the magazines in half for now and put a nice baseplate on it, maybe even change the mag release but that's what I would do for now.

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...inder-technical-info-questions-go-to.2483222/

I am in the waiting stage for now since a few new rifles haven't been released yet, most noticeable the MK3, it does not have the rear charging handle but the Crypto also does not have the FA (forward assist). Depends what you want. If you look at the PCC (pistol caliber carbine), people really find the rear charging handle on the FX9 very appealing and it keeps the used price market and demand high. So for a newbie like you, buying a full rifle Crypto and doing small and slow improvements is probably the way to go. Cheers.
 
scianna54 said:
If you don't have an AR sitting around, go for the full rifle. The $1k higher price over the receiver set is peanuts. There is a thread what you have to buy (basically everything) and you will end up at well over $3K. You can always improve the rifle at a later stage if you really like it and want to keep it. As to magazines, I would just cut the magazines in half for now and put a nice baseplate on it, maybe even change the mag release but that's what I would do for now.

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...inder-technical-info-questions-go-to.2483222/

I am in the waiting stage for now since a few new rifles haven't been released yet, most noticeable the MK3, it does not have the rear charging handle but the Crypto also does not have the FA (forward assist). Depends what you want. If you look at the PCC (pistol caliber carbine), people really find the rear charging handle on the FX9 very appealing and it keeps the used price market and demand high. So for a newbie like you, buying a full rifle Crypto and doing small and slow improvements is probably the way to go. Cheers.
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Appreciate the reply!

Yeah I got a k9 to scratch the “Ar” ergo itch.

The mk3 looks great. Waiting to see what’s the overall consensus in a few months on all the of these platforms
 
Sigh said:
What’s everyone’s consensus so far?

Build one out of the stripped receiver, or buy a whole rifle?

Cost effectiveness? Things to replace if you go full rifle?

Itching to get into one of these but there’s just so much uncertainty lmao
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I decided to build from the receiver set but it's definitely not the cheapest option. Being a relative newbie myself, there are a few reasons I chose to do this:

I have/had Canadian manufactured firearms before (lower cost of entry as a newer firearms owner); while they were ok, they're not really that well made, and they were heavy. With the receiver set, I can chose the parts I want on my rifle; the only real limited option I have is the receiver set itself.

I am inherently lazy; If I buy a fully built rifle, I am less likely to understand the inner workings and less likely to swap out parts. Buying parts separately, I'm forced to understand the platform more intricately and gives me something to look forward to build that feels truly custom.

If the new government (fingers crossed) reverses the current government's OIC, I have quality parts (for the most part) that I could drop in a proper AR upper and lower (or I could just keep what I have and build another AR since I now how the knowledge to do so)

Some of the cons include the higher price point - I think I was in for about $2.5-2.6k with the receiver set, which is not bad compared to some other builds but I inevitably "cheaped out" on some parts; In addition, what I didn't factor in the above costs are tools that I didn't have such as vice, torque wrench, reaction rod, punches, etc...which definitely add up (but can be used in the future for other builds or other projects in general)
 
PinaKaleada said:
Everything sounds good except the part where this receiver is still going to be NR while the AR will be restricted. In that case I’d still consider keeping the NR one!
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Very true; so even then the Crypt has its place. Unless the conservative government makes good on their promise to design a new classification system that actually makes sense; then, perhaps one day, I'll be able to shoot an AR-15 out in the bush!
 
From my observation the receiver sets seem to have a tighter fitup. The complete rifles I've handled (two only) were pretty loose fitting upper to lower.

The OEM pencil barrel is pretty decent. I'm really happy with its accuracy and weight. Got to smash on some 200ya and 250ya steel today and it was very easy with a 50 yard zero and an unmagnified red dot.

Everyone that shoots the thing likes it.
 
mjbonne said:
Very true; so even then the Crypt has its place. Unless the conservative government makes good on their promise to design a new classification system that actually makes sense; then, perhaps one day, I'll be able to shoot an AR-15 out in the bush!
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Don't put your faith in politicians, this will never happen.
 
scianna54 said:
If you don't have an AR sitting around, go for the full rifle. The $1k higher price over the receiver set is peanuts. There is a thread what you have to buy (basically everything) and you will end up at well over $3K.
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Rifle can be built for much less than that, with quality parts from the EE.
 
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i get that this is the crypto thread but gotta ask why the crypto is getting so much more love than the lockhart? both are ar-ish clone gas guns. both are seemingly made ok. they both cost about the same. both come from relatively un-loved manufacturers.

but the lockhart takes normal mags ...
 
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