Little badgers 22k hornet possible?

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Though about doin my little badgers reamed out to 22k hornet
Donor is a 22 lr or 22mag.. not sure whick ill choose..
Be simple enough to alter the firing pin?
Drill the reciver for center fire cartridge

And extent the pervious rimfire firing pin, into the centeral postion.

Just thought it might be a neat compact pew.pew with some smack.
Maybe 17hmr into hornet.. Lol,

Big badgers might be here by 2030 if where lucky
 
I'm not a gunsmith, nor do I play one on tv, but have you considered much about this, other than "it would be neat"? One would think if it was a good idea, the company would already make them. Do you know the answers to the questions below?


What steel is the barrel/receiver on this firearm compared to centerfire offerings
22 lr max pressure compared to 22 hornet
Bolt thrust

I don't know the answer to any of these , but I imagine if you managed to shoehorn the 22 Hornet in, you'd need to water down the cartridge so much with slower powders (if it was even possible) to keep pressures down, that it would erase any advantage you hoped for in the first place. What's wrong with 22 mag?
 
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Very cool bear hunter. Those survival guys go all out. Gessh .
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sell your .22 Mag Badger. Buy a baby martini in 22 LR, convert to CF; ream to .22 K-Hornet. Better yet; buy a Ruger #1 in .22 Hornet. Load it to all the brass can stand. That'll save you all the bother & plastic surgery as Trevj said.
Not a bad option. Thx
TrevJ needs to have more faith in duct tape and j.b.weld..lol all joks aside , i agree operating pressure is 20,000 cups more than the 22mag.

Fun thought anyhow
 
Not a bad option. Thx
TrevJ needs to have more faith in duct tape and j.b.weld..lol all joks aside , i agree operating pressure is 20,000 cups more than the 22mag.

Fun thought anyhow
That doesn't mean the Badger won't handle those pressures. Check with the manufacturers about the strength of the action.

From the few I've seen, they look pretty tough.
 
That doesn't mean the Badger won't handle those pressures. Check with the manufacturers about the strength of the action.

From the few I've seen, they look pretty tough.
The real problem, as I see it, 'not tongue in cheek', is that you need to KNOW, with certainty, the alloys, and thereby the strengths of the various pressure holding components, which I kinda doubt Chiappa is gonna just hand over. Just my opinion, but I kinda doubt Chiasppa is putting expensive material in a gun designed to be safe at Rimfire pressures. Maybe I'm wrong, but if it was my face, I'd err to the side of informed caution.

Then, you need to do some pretty fancy math, to see if you have even a Chance, of containing far higher pressures than the gun was designed to deal with. I have looked at, without firmly understanding, the math that goes into this, Pressure and hoop stress calculations, although I am fairly sure some keener has built an online app to calculate it. If you can trust that. And, you need to be CERTAIN, on the contact between the barrel, and the block that it fits in, on the action. A very small amount of gap between a too thin Barrel Wall/Chamber Wall, unsupported by a tight enough fit into the block, and the numbers go out the window.

If you look in to some of the rimfires that HAVE been converted without much fuss, they are either grossly over engineered, like the small frame Martinis, or they were actually designed to be able to withstand what amounts to ludicrous pressures against possible future line expansion, most notably the 5mm rim fire Remingtons that were essentially designed from the outset to be safe at 60K psi figures. (5XX series, IIRC, bolt guns with rear locking lugs FAR in excess of rimfire needs!). These latter STILL need a threaded barrel conversion, but the basic numbers that have shown up in historical research, seem to indicate that the guys who designed it, REALLY wanted it to be a strong action!

If you build it on the basis that you will only ever run downloaded ammo in it, you are gonna be personally responsible, for when the uninformed dude stuffs a favorite 'hot load' that works well in HIS fave Hornet, into the chamber.

Most of that above, is why I think it is a bad idea.
 
I don't disagree with you at all. That's why I suggested he contact the manufacturer,
I wasn't so much talking to you, as I was to the OP, in relation to your post...

But I appreciate your generally supportive opinion! :p

There are basically 'easy' and 'hard' ways to do a caliber conversion. It helps to have some idea of what the various starting points are capable of, from a design strength perspective.

Nobody ever went wrong, calculating the design to err on the side of caution and strength!
 
I wasn't so much talking to you, as I was to the OP, in relation to your post...

But I appreciate your generally supportive opinion! :p

There are basically 'easy' and 'hard' ways to do a caliber conversion. It helps to have some idea of what the various starting points are capable of, from a design strength perspective.

Nobody ever went wrong, calculating the design to err on the side of caution and strength!
Agreed, be interesting to see what the reciver is really made from.
Capable of withstanding the constant pressure, or maybe just the first box of ammo. Second box might not mork so well..lol
 
I would be all in but… I have a badger in 22 and 22 mag. I don’t think they will be strong enough to do your conversion to hornet. If you can find any info on its strength please tell us as this would be interesting project. And go with the 22 mag version as it is a .224 diameter barrel already which currently 22 bullets are
 
I would be all in but… I have a badger in 22 and 22 mag. I don’t think they will be strong enough to do your conversion to hornet. If you can find any info on its strength please tell us as this would be interesting project. And go with the 22 mag version as it is a .224 diameter barrel already which currently 22 bullets are
I agree kieth.
She would be a spice meatball
Realistically if you wanted only subsonic loads with heavier bullets. Pressure would be lower..

on the other hand
The big badgers will fix the need. And gaps in market.
Little more plug and play less work
Ill make some calls
 
I agree kieth.
She would be a spice meatball
Realistically if you wanted only subsonic loads with heavier bullets. Pressure would be lower..

on the other hand
The big badgers will fix the need. And gaps in market.
Little more plug and play less work
Ill make some calls
I'd be interested in what you learn! Though, I will refer back to previous comment about being responsible, should you build a gun on the grounds that it only ever be run with downloaded ammo....

I would also suggest that looking at the old .22WCF (precursor to the Hornet), as well as watching what the Euro Lot are doing in Hornets (mostly .223 cal barrels), and make decisions based on best possible results. As far as the Euros go, their product seems to shoot .224 bullets, just fine, out of .223 barrels. Research CZ, for example. Rimfire barrels though, are yet another variation. They range a LOT, and I have seen folks declaring them from .220 out to well past .224, yet nobody complains that much. The more you look, the more you know. It's a rabbit hole I went down while trying to figure out a decent barrel to use on a small frame Martini. Someday, I'll make up my mind, eh? :)

I have seen specs on rimfire barrels everything from some pretty low end and generally barely adequate (but easy to machine!) alloys, right up to the exact same stuff as the high pressure rounds are chambered in.
 
Right . Keith
The design is simple, like trevj mention it comes down to barrel strenght

A big badger in 35 legend was on the menu of im not mistaken.
Would be the prefect plinker or hunting load combo

Forgot about the 22WCF
 
Right . Keith
The design is simple, like trevj mention it comes down to barrel strenght

A big badger in 35 legend was on the menu of im not mistaken.
Would be the prefect plinker or hunting load combo

Forgot about the 22WCF
But, is the Big Badger, any real relation to the rimfire one?

My immediate thoughts is, that they are not actually related. Besides brand names, anyways.
 
I questioned whether my 22mag version was strong enough for 22mag, definitely wouldn't consider shooting anything hotter in it. It's a $200 gun that is worth about $100 IMHO. They could have ditched all the plastic "iron" sights and rails and had something that anyone would buy for even $250, but instead they cheaped out and gave us garbage.
 
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