200 M deer cartridge.

Gatehouse said:
The 243 vs 6.5 Creed thread asks which is better for deer to 200 yards. Most game is shot within 200 or so yards so instead of one or the other- what is your pick?

ONLY hunting deer and the range will not exceed 200 yards. You can pick your existing favorite or a cartridge you don't own but think would be ideal for the task at hand.

Have fun! :)

My pick would be 6.5 Grendel. Little recoil, cheap to load and an excellent killer.
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dammmm you gatehouse ...LOL...just what I needed...another dilemma !!

I wuz just gonna have a quick peek on CGN to see what wuz shakin...NOW...I have brain burn because of all the possible calibers I have that I can use...or, NOW...I have the option to use any of my imaginary (I want )calibers too !!!
~~~~~sighhh~~~

I seem to tend to always grab my old lucky Stainless A-Bolt 300WSM when I'm reaching in the safe for my deer rifle.
I did for the last 2 yrs. Both times successful. One @ 80 yds and this year, my 8 pt came out strutting obliviously at 25 yds...mistake ! All over qualifiers for the under 200 qualifier...LOL
Many Choices....lots left and lots gone in the past 6 or 7 yrs.

My love for my T3 Forest in 6.5x55 Swede is well known...it usually tries sooo hard to get out past the 300WSM, , but then, my Tikka 6.5 PRC reigns it back in and sticks it beside my A-Bolt Stainless 243.
My Stevens 270 is always chomping at the bit to harvest another deer..been 3 yrs for it's last successful deer hunt by my SIL. The Stainless 308 A-Bolt sit's silently..bolt hung low (60 degrees lol)....has for 5 or 6 yrs..except for a few trips to the range.

NOW...I'll swing open the doors of my imaginary safe...dayyyuuum.....front row...I see there's a nice Kimber 243-AI...I see a Stainless Winchester mod 70FW in 257 bob...a real nice burnt bronze Pro X-Bolt 708's...and of course, like the Cat..my Ruger #1 in 6.5x55 . Gettin back...my Shaw custom in 7mmRM would be kool too !

To pick just one and only one...I'd have to say my Tikka T3 Forest in 6.5 Swede !....maybe...pretty sure...I think ..

???..see what you did Gatehouse :) :)
 
Suther said:
6.5 Grendel in a Howa mini action carbon would be sweet, top it with a lightweight Leupold in a 2-7 or 2.5-8, whole thing could be under 6lb.
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My Howa Mini 1500 Carbon 6.5 G weights Exactly 6 lbs 👍😀

I wish Talley made some EXTRA LOW LW rings but they do not so my scope sits a little high for my liking 🤷🏼‍♂️
 

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For me the 2506 would be perfect as well as dozens of others. If 200 yards Is the absolute max I'd take my 458wm loaded with a 405gr rem corlokt I love the gun and I know that load works great for black bear so it should be fine for deer
About 40% of the deer I shoot are with 50 cal muzzleloarders. While 200 yards is a far poke with a smoke pole I've shot a couple there and beyond. Tracking skills become much more important as the bullets just plow thru. Impressive hole but not much shock value. A fast smaller center fire is the ticket for fast kills on whitetails. The 2506 just flattens them. I don't have a 250 savage but it or a 25/45 sharps should work just fine as well

Currently I have a 308 set up in a MDT lss gen2 chassis that would make a perfect deer rifle out to 200 yards. As boring as the 308 is that's what it does best as a hunting round
 
I'll put another vote in for 6.5x55.
Been shooting deer/moose with light recoil for a loooong time. Lots of case capacity to play with as a reloaded too.
 
Gatehouse said:
The 243 vs 6.5 Creed thread asks which is better for deer to 200 yards. Most game is shot within 200 or so yards so instead of one or the other- what is your pick?

ONLY hunting deer and the range will not exceed 200 yards. You can pick your existing favorite or a cartridge you don't own but think would be ideal for the task at hand.

Have fun! :)

My pick would be 6.5 Grendel. Little recoil, cheap to load and an excellent killer.
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Since you are in BC, a 223/223AI or 222 would absolutely rock, If not, then definitely a 243/243AI. All have more than enough punch for deer past 200M.

R.
 
Rman said:
Since you are in BC, a 223/223AI or 222 would absolutely rock, If not, then definitely a 243/243AI. All have more than enough punch for deer past 200M.

R.
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Are there many suitable bullets that a 1:12 or 1:14 twist 222 can stabalize? Maybe the 45gr TSX, I hear that is designed for 1:14 twist 22-250s, so as long as you can get the velocity high enough in the 222 it should work?... Most other bullets I hear people talking about when it comes to big game and the 22cals are too heavy, but its not a rabbit hole I have gone down very far.
 
Most 1:12's can run the heavier bullets. Having said that, there are more than a few that just can't.
A designated 223/222 deer rifle really would have to have the slower twist barrel on it for best performance.
One of the reasons for the AI is to get more speed and stability out of the 1:12/14 barrels. If would be wise to use one of the many stability calculators available before trying. Most often than not, the bullets in the marginal category perform very well.

R.
 
I am currently awaiting the availability of the standard Ruger American GenII in 6.5 Grendel.
The Ranch is too short and the predator too long.
it is going to be my (mostly my wife and son's) deer rifle.
I will put it in my MDT chassis and plink with it out of season.

I like the Howa but I already have the MDT inletted for the RA so......
 
Those are not very challenging parameters. If I could pick anything, .223, if I had to pick something legal to use in AB I would go with a 6mm Arc, or 6x45 if I had one.
 
bdb.hunting said:
I’ve heard good things about the 6mm ARC. I also love my 338 RCM so that’s on the list for everything at all distances. (Big game wise within reason.)

Or a good ole .308

B
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Most cartridges work within 200m. The Grendel and the Arc are excellent picks. Almost no recoil compared to a 243 even. Amazing on deer sized game. My Grendel loves the 129 grain accubond long range.

I also have a 338RCM. Amazing choice as well with a light Barnes bullet for close range. I actually pack in a 265 grain ABLR in mine, pushed by some Reloder 26. Amazing all around cartridge. Basically the same as a 338 win mag, but in a short package. Gets some crazy velocities with new modern powders.
 
First, let me say that everyone should buy whatever they heck they want with their own money. If you want to rebarrel your rifle to 8.6 BLACKOUT, bed it to a pink 3D printed chassis, and hydro dip the receiver with unicorns, go right ahead. The customer is always right in matters of taste, and I'm not trying to yuck anybody's yum.

Having said that, and at the risk of rustling jimmies, I struggle to understand why anyone would shoot anything besides plentiful and cheap .22lr, 9mm, 5.56, .308, or 12ga for general hunting in Canada.

Is the extra cost really worth it to gain another 0.5 MOA or whatever from an obscure/meme/new calibre?
 
climbingrocks said:
First, let me say that everyone should buy whatever they heck they want with their own money. If you want to rebarrel your rifle to 8.6 BLACKOUT, bed it to a pink 3D printed chassis, and hydro dip the receiver with unicorns, go right ahead. The customer is always right in matters of taste, and I'm not trying to yuck anybody's yum.

Having said that, and at the risk of rustling jimmies, I struggle to understand why anyone would shoot anything besides plentiful and cheap .22lr, 9mm, 5.56, .308, or 12ga for general hunting in Canada.

Is the extra cost really worth it to gain another 0.5 MOA or whatever from an obscure/meme/new calibre?
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I definitely would not want to be hunting large game in Canada with cheap 5.56 or 308. You need a hunting bullet. Not many surplus 5.56 rounds you can use for hunting, ethically, or legally for that matter.
For close up hunts in a blind, where everything works out perfectly. Animal isn't spooked or anything, no big deal. I'll shoot it in the neck, base of the skull everytime. Where no matter what bullet you use it's going to kill. For 99 percent of people hunting, they aren't going to come across the exact perfect conditions required to do so.
I'm a huge fan of bonded bullets, especially on larger game. Deer, use whatever you want, unless your going to stretch it out. For larger than deer, pick a gun your most proficient in. Can shoot offhand no problem, and hit everything you aim at. With a "tough" bullet, that is going to make it through the vitals, even in less than ideal angles.
Especially for those who are on a once in a lifetime hunt, use premium rounds, or roll your own. I got a chance to hunt bison last year, I took a 375 Ruger loaded with 350 grain round nose woodleigh bullets. I would not in any circumstance trust the cheapest 5.56, or 308 rounds for that hunt. Sure it can work. But when you have a 1200lb bull charging you head on, I'll stick with my 375.
 
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