What will you buy when the ban ends?

TriggerHappyHippy said:
Politicians are the puppets.
HofC is the theatre.
All politicians and political parties are the actors.
Pierre is an establishment politician. He's literally done nothing his whole life except be a politician. Even then he doesn't control.the the CPC.
It doesn't matter who runs in the elections. It's the prople controlling the political parties
Elections will not fix Canada.
Only revolution and prosecutions will
Our form of governance is nothing more than an act to give the illusion of a democracy. It's literally a prison.
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Yes, I agree with you. I didn't say Pierre was any different but Trudeau is the current PM, not Pierre so that is who I referenced. I have no doubt Pierre will follow Agenda 2030 as well as all nations and parties have agreed to it.
 
canadaman30 said:
Instead of ask me my voting preference, why not ask yourself why you accept your Conservative vote supports small arms disarmament?
Why not ask your MP if your vote supports small arms disarmament?
My vote is unimportant, it's what the majority of gun owners vote is going to support which is very important....
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And yet, here you are, proselytizing about no one to vote for. Guess all the laws needing change are going to happen by wishing, hoping and whinging. - dan
 
canadaman30 said:
You and many other a gun owner in for very sobering reality in 2025 and beyond with CPC steering the ship
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All the doom and gloom. It's defeatist to live and think like that.

No other Government other than the CPC has a prayer of restoring the right to purchase handguns here in Canada. I don't care about other rights. Every person in Canada has the choice to stay in a Canada that does not allow handguns to be purchased, or to leave for another country that does allow it. Now, since I'm already a Mexican citizen, that probably sounds easy for me to say and I guess it is. I'll wait and see if Pierre does what he says he'll do, and if not I'll leave for greener pastures. Guatemala might also be a good choice and I also have friends in Panama, another gun-friendly country in the bananaland I know and rather love.

But Pierre gets his chance first. NOBODY else in ANY other Canadian Political Party is even worth discussing. Telling us that we're all doomed if we trust Pierre isn't actually correct: you're probably doomed if Pierre doesn't come through though. Many others will be also. I probably won't be, and many others won't, and I really couldn't give a rat's patootie because I figured out in 1990 that it wasn't wise to leave all my eggs just in the basket with the red mapleleaf on it. I've left countries before, you know, leaving everything I'd built to die off so I could go start again somewhere else. Sell off all your stuff, pack up the little you can take, and go for it. Easy peasy. It's like your first civilian parachute jump from that Cessna 182 -- if you decide once you're out the door on that wing-strut that it's a little scarier than you thought, just close your eyes and let go. There's no "jump" involved, you'll just be blown off the strut by the wind and fall naturally. Maybe where you land will be a better place? It will certainly be exciting.

Screw the Agenda 2030, or any other agenda. You've got feet, I assume? Walk if you don't like it here. Yes, it's hard, yes it's filled with uncertainty, and yes a lot of people on this forum simply aren't up to it, and for many it's the sum of their bad choices coming back to bite them.

Like the bad choice of not backing Pierre when he's the only and probably last chance for Canada to move forward will come back to bite those who don't.

And when the ban ends I want the first Smith and Wesson E-Series Model 108482 .45 Automatic to come in the door at the Calgary Shooting Centre. I think I've already told them that, actually. I was told I had a "positive mental outlook" or something along that line.
 
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dan belisle said:
Then point out the alternative. Come on, we're all waiting for you to share your wisdom. - dan
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I think that's the issue we face as a community though, we do not have a better option at this time. If we could just stop arguing over it and try to work together better and see things for what they are, instead of infighting all the time over what is happening to us, we would be better off as a whole.

Pierre is certainly better on paper than Trudeau but that doesn't mean Pierre can do no wrong simply because he's the better option than Trudeau. We shouldn't put any politicians on a pedestal as a general practice, regardless of their party affiliation.
Pierre has secured my vote. Although I remain hopeful he fufills his many promises, I will not be naive enough to think he is going to fix everything that has been broken. Every modern politician in the world over promises on the campaign and does not fulfill the majority of things they said once they are in office. Campaign promises do not automatically transfer 1:1 to legislative action once in office.
I do genuinely hold onto some hope that Pierre proves me wrong once in office though, I would be thrilled to be proven wrong on that.
 
SilentKnight said:
I think that's the issue we face as a community though, we do not have a better option at this time. If we could just stop arguing over it and try to work together better and see things for what they are, instead of infighting all the time over what is happening to us, we would be better off as a whole.

Pierre is certainly better on paper than Trudeau but that doesn't mean Pierre can do no wrong simply because he's the better option than Trudeau. We shouldn't put any politicians on a pedestal as a general practice, regardless of their party affiliation.
Pierre has secured my vote. Although I remain hopeful he fufills his many promises, I will not be naive enough to think he is going to fix everything that has been broken. Every modern politician in the world over promises on the campaign and does not fulfill the majority of things they said once they are in office. Campaign promises do not automatically transfer 1:1 to legislative action once in office.
I do genuinely hold onto some hope that Pierre proves me wrong once in office though, I would be thrilled to be proven wrong on that.
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Agree. He's the best of a bunch of bad choices. - dan
 
SilentKnight said:
I think that's the issue we face as a community though, we do not have a better option at this time. If we could just stop arguing over it and try to work together better and see things for what they are, instead of infighting all the time over what is happening to us, we would be better off as a whole.

Pierre is certainly better on paper than Trudeau but that doesn't mean Pierre can do no wrong simply because he's the better option than Trudeau. We shouldn't put any politicians on a pedestal as a general practice, regardless of their party affiliation.
Pierre has secured my vote. Although I remain hopeful he fufills his many promises, I will not be naive enough to think he is going to fix everything that has been broken. Every modern politician in the world over promises on the campaign and does not fulfill the majority of things they said once they are in office. Campaign promises do not automatically transfer 1:1 to legislative action once in office.
I do genuinely hold onto some hope that Pierre proves me wrong once in office though, I would be thrilled to be proven wrong on that.
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Regardless of what happens it's not just gunowners that need to get on the same page, Canadians in general minus the radical fringes on both sides need to find common ground.

The one thing that gives me hope and concern at the same time is the monumental changes that seem to be on our doorstep with tech.

It's hard to tell with all the bluster and claims from the different AI competitors but it sure seems like be seeing big changes over the next mandate, changes so profound that many of the sleepier sheep in the flock will likely not even notice a change in the legal gun laws.

If the Trump administration gets some good people appointed and hit the road running, (he's already talking to world leaders and changing the tone) the next Conservative governement could piggy back on some of the changes and get behind the draft of the American MAGA economy and MAHA changes to the FDA and CDC , along with other initiatives to make people healthier again. I expect we will see bans on cell phones in schools soon for example and other initiatives to deal with the mental health crisis and fentynal. So many problems to fix, legal guns are way down the list even though we see them differently and they are currently being attacked by a weak, ineffective and ideologically bent regime.

If Trump can deliver a legacy of effective change it might embolden other leaders to do the same...... and if the majority of Americans can come together in support of those changes even better! Fingers crossed.
 
Even if everything is reversed. It will likely take some time for supply chains to be re-established and new products to be imported. Will likely be a very active EE at that time. \
 
Can-down said:
Regardless of what happens it's not just gunowners that need to get on the same page, Canadians in general minus the radical fringes on both sides need to find common ground.

The one thing that gives me hope and concern at the same time is the monumental changes that seem to be on our doorstep with tech.

It's hard to tell with all the bluster and claims from the different AI competitors but it sure seems like be seeing big changes over the next mandate, changes so profound that many of the sleepier sheep in the flock will likely not even notice a change in the legal gun laws.

If the Trump administration gets some good people appointed and hit the road running, (he's already talking to world leaders and changing the tone) the next Conservative governement could piggy back on some of the changes and get behind the draft of the American MAGA economy and MAHA changes to the FDA and CDC , along with other initiatives to make people healthier again. I expect we will see bans on cell phones in schools soon for example and other initiatives to deal with the mental health crisis and fentynal. So many problems to fix, legal guns are way down the list even though we see them differently and they are currently being attacked by a weak, ineffective and ideologically bent regime.

If Trump can deliver a legacy of effective change it might embolden other leaders to do the same...... and if the majority of Americans can come together in support of those changes even better! Fingers crossed.
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I agree. We would all be in a better place with a Conservative majority up here, working alongside a Republican majority down south. The world has had enough of the far left mentality for a life time lol.

Look at how absolutely embarrassing and ineffective Trudeau and all his cabinet are when dealing with ANYONE other than another weirdo far left government or a poor, third world government that they can have the last word with because they are giving them funding. It's easy to have your way with those types of interactions but with Trump, all they have is insults and name calling, "he's a bully" or "he just hates women" or whatever other falsehood they promote while offering nothing concrete to work with because they got nothing. They're too weak and too stupid to have anything real to offer so it's back to name calling and distracting from their obvious and growing failures.
 
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