Ethical hunting chalange
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Hand Skills
CGN Regular
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- In the 'heartland', southern SK
Rifle weight is not a big deal for those who hunt from blinds 
I like where Eric is coming from on this - he's showing that prone and without any equipment restrictions, it's still very difficult to make an ethical shot at 500yd.
There was a "Milk jug Challenge" on the Backfire channel that stirred up a lot of hunters; So then he did a second one with fans which I spired a bunch of shooters to try the challenge on their own, which is kinda cool;
And if you're into that sort of thing, you gotta know Texas Plinking;
One thing these programs fail to show is just how much preparation it takes to be proficient at these ranges. Possible for some, but requires significant investment of components and time...
I like where Eric is coming from on this - he's showing that prone and without any equipment restrictions, it's still very difficult to make an ethical shot at 500yd.
There was a "Milk jug Challenge" on the Backfire channel that stirred up a lot of hunters; So then he did a second one with fans which I spired a bunch of shooters to try the challenge on their own, which is kinda cool;
And if you're into that sort of thing, you gotta know Texas Plinking;
One thing these programs fail to show is just how much preparation it takes to be proficient at these ranges. Possible for some, but requires significant investment of components and time...
Yep.
I think the point here is to show that even with no time limit and no gear restrictions, this is a VERY difficult challenge.
Most of those attempting it are unable to do it.
Many of these subsequently blackjack on his parallel challenge so they are not amateurs.
Its telling and should be informative to all those who over assess their own capabilities.
I think the point here is to show that even with no time limit and no gear restrictions, this is a VERY difficult challenge.
Most of those attempting it are unable to do it.
Many of these subsequently blackjack on his parallel challenge so they are not amateurs.
Its telling and should be informative to all those who over assess their own capabilities.
Bustercluck
CGN Regular
- Location
- Fort McMurray
I was surprised how manynof those guys couldn’t hit the target from 500 yards with the rifles they were using. The one I watched didn’t have crazy wind either.
I’ve been working towards this sort of thing with the milk jug style challenge. My last hunt in november I smacked a milk jug at 545 yards with my 6 pound hunting rifle, first shot. I think we should all be doing this kind of thing to build skill or probe you can do what you think you can do.
I’ve been working towards this sort of thing with the milk jug style challenge. My last hunt in november I smacked a milk jug at 545 yards with my 6 pound hunting rifle, first shot. I think we should all be doing this kind of thing to build skill or probe you can do what you think you can do.
The winners of our 50/50 speed shoot yesterday put five onto a 1MOA plate at 500 meters in about 8 seconds ( maybe less) yesterday in -20c temperature.
Single loading as well, not from the mag
Cartridge was a 6mmBR
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Single loading as well, not from the mag
Cartridge was a 6mmBR
Cat
From what position?The winners of our 50/50 speed shoot yesterday put five onto a 1MOA plate at 500 meters in about 8 seconds ( maybe less) yesterday in -20c temperature.
Single loading as well, not from the mag
Cartridge was a 6mmBR
Cat
I need to start playing more with field positions. Not that I have any of my rifles in the same category as in the guys in the video, but still!
Go my moose this year at 270m from a kneeling position and he was running!
Luck perhaps… I don’t think so!
That said it is a much bigger target than a milk jug!
Butcherbill
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Blaster land, Okanagan BC
It’s not a who can kill a deer at 500y challenge, it’s a who can hit a 1moa target at 500y cold bore. That’s way tougher for most people than who can hit the vitals at 500y, everyone with the exception of the guy shooting the AR would have had a heart/lung hit.
As to their rifles, if you drag it out to the bush and hunt with it, it’s a hunting rifle lol.
I like his ethical hunter challenge but I would like to see someone bring a more traditional rifle to do it with, most of these guys hunt and I’d love to see them bring their main hunting rifle and give it a go.
Butcherbill
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- Blaster land, Okanagan BC
Yeah I’d love to see people bring their actual hunting rifles, I hunt with some non traditional rifles in some regards but they’re no heavier than 10lbs. One year for shĂts and giggles I dragged around a Howa 1500 in a chassis for spring bear, mix of quad and hiking and it sucked. Ergos were less than fun, it went into a field stock shortly after and was great to carry and shoot deer with in the fall.
#4 of this challenge is fun as a couple guys bring irons into the mix, pretty humbling with irons at that distance and size of target. Hell I know how much the front sight post blocks the bullseye at 200m lol.
About 75% of the rifles used in our steel match on Saturday from 200 to 1,000 were hunting rifles .
The speed match at our 1MOA plate was fired cold bore and they had finished firing at 1 000 so they had to turret down to 500 without sighters .
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The speed match at our 1MOA plate was fired cold bore and they had finished firing at 1 000 so they had to turret down to 500 without sighters .
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FatCatsDad
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Successfully making a 500 yard shot makes you a good shot not a good hunter.
A person that stalks an tracks an animal for 2 hours and takes it with a 50 yard shot in thick brush is a better hunter than someone who just sits at a field edge shooting Coyotes at 400 yards.
One is a hunter, one is a target shooter.
A person that stalks an tracks an animal for 2 hours and takes it with a 50 yard shot in thick brush is a better hunter than someone who just sits at a field edge shooting Coyotes at 400 yards.
One is a hunter, one is a target shooter.
I disagree, because the person who is hunting ( in your example, coyotes) still has to locate them and be able to camouflage himself to be able to make that shot . Pressured coyotes and wolves are suspicious of everything even at 400 yards or better. It's what varmint hu tong is all about.
In the case of a deer at say, 500 yards, the hunter still has to locate the deer , a d get into position to make that shot . That means he may have stalked for quite a while to get into that position Nd can get no closer .
For example. If a moose hunter is calling and the bull hangs up at 200 yards , he is still hunting if he kills the bull at that range.
Putting an arbitrary distance on whether or not a person is hunting is ridiculous because there are a pile of traditional bow hunters out there that refuse to shoot past 25 yards . Doesn't mean the trad hunter who can make the shot at 40 yards is not a hunter. Same as rifle hunting .
I personally have made kills at less than 12 yards with a rifle. Does that mean any animal I killed when I was out for less than an hour and shot at over 100 yards, that I was not hunting ?
Shooting is part of hunting if you are shooting at an animal.
Otherwise no, the two are not in the same category, but a person has to own their shot after it is out of the rifle, be it a clean kill or a wounding shot regardless of the distance.
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Butcherbill
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Blaster land, Okanagan BC
They’re one and the same, the two skills are interconnected. Being a competent target shooter helps you be a better shooter while hunting. Can’t say the same for a lot of the people I know that just shoot a half box a year trying to sight in and say “Good enough”.
Tarrantula
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Just discovered the Texas Plinking videos. Fun to watch, it humbles a lot of people lol.
