X2. The 7x57 killed things really punched above its weight. 7-08 works good but give the edge to the 7x57 for heavier bullet weights. Short case 7-08 won't take a 175 grain without losing powder space. The 175 grain is what the 7x57 made it's reputation with 100 plus years ago. It will wade a lot of meat for sure.
7mm-08 Remington
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i have 2 7-08s and 2 30-06 s - There both GREAT cartridges - the 7-08s are short actions and a bit lighter rifles-
Both cartridges are accurate - the 30-06 is BETTER with heavier bullets and the 7-08 with lighter bullets - 7-08 has less recoil ! Both will KILL all Game with GOOD bullets and GREAT shot placement .
I used my 30-06 with a 175 LRX bullet to get my moose this year because where i was hunting i might have LONGER SHOT to take so i wanted a bit more Horse Power then the 7-08 could provide !
For Deer hunting i use a 7-08. jmo RJ
Not only that, but a 2.80" short action mag box runs out of room fast if your trying to get to the lands with a long bullet in a 7-08.
I'd take the 7x57 in a long action first. I did the same with my (same parent case) 257Roberts.
No you don't hear about it much, does not diminish it's effectiveness though.
I’ve missed out or couldn’t convince myself enough on ‘bout three/four 700’s in 280Rem in the last few yrs.
It’s a Cal that intrigues me, but not wanting to go all in on one (reloading) and limited factory offerings I usually and eventually reluctantly have bypassed them..
If you are a reloader I would not be scared of it, it is an excellent round. But if you have a 7mm-08 I likely wouldn't bother. The other option is pick up a 280Rem and have it converted to the AI version. I have a custom 280AI, it shoots 160 Nosler AB at 2950 into less than an inch, makes for an ideal western setup and is easy to shoot and load for.
Probably more rifles being made in 280ai than regular 280 at this point - I took a brief look like a year ago and I found more 280ai's than I did 280s.
There similar but the 7-08 will out do a 6.5 x 55 swede in FPS with same lenght barrel - But it won't OUTKILL it ! LOL RJ
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Hmmm. I always feel the recoil from my 30 06 when I take it to the range and make sure it’s shooting where it should . But as others have mentioned many times “ You don’t feel the recoil when your pulling the trigger on game “ this is the case with me .
Having said that my 6.5 Creed has a very mild recoil .
So how does the 7mm08 compare to the 6.5 Creed ?
Having said that my 6.5 Creed has a very mild recoil .
So how does the 7mm08 compare to the 6.5 Creed ?
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The recoil on the 7mm-08 is a little more than the 6.5 Creedmoor.
7mm-08 recoils at approximately 22 foot pounds.
6.5 Creedmoor recoils at approximately 18 foot pounds.
Although 4 foot pounds isn't a lot, one will notice the larger recoil somewhat.......
https://www.silencercentral.com/blog/6-5-creedmoor-recoil/
Not much difference Buddy in recoil but there is more with the 7-08 in the same weight rifle & bullet weight - the 7-08 is burning MORE powder . RJ
That's what i have come to really like about the 7-08. It seems to be the sweet spot of recoil vs performance.
Yes you can get faster/harder hitting, but it comes at the price of extra recoil. You can get less recoil, but you drop off in how hard it hits.
I def agree, but slight edge is slight edge, so many factors for sure.
This is a good little read on BC for factors and wind. while I agree negligible over testing and long run its still a slight advantage
factor.
https://bergerbullets.com/nobsbc/bc-effect-on-accuracy/
(also distance is probably the biggest factor period in any argument)
guessing but Id say 90% of new rifles with a good scope and any cal, should shoot amazing 100,200,300 yards.
too many guys get fixated on groups with hunting rifles. at the end of the day pick a good bullet and cartridge your comfortable shooting as accurate as you can and safe bet the animal should go down.
Not too much difference between the 6.5 CM and 7mm-08. IMO…two short action peas in a pod, really. Using 140 gr bullets, loads of 41 gr powder gives 2800’/sec. +/-. The 140gr., 6.5 bullet is a little more slippery so effective range might be a bit further.
The 7mm-08 can efficiently use heavier lead bullets up to about 160gr. Much heavier/longer and the bullet starts cutting into powder space. Using heavier available bullets, you could make the assumption that the 7mm-08 might be slightly better for larger game (moose/elk) than the 6.5CM.
The 7mm-08 is my primary hunting cartridge. Found a sweet little Cooper Jackson Hunter at prophet river about 10 years ago. It’s a joy to carry and shoots really well. Weighs in at 7 lbs with scope and shoots sub 3/4 MOA (3 shot groups). I use the 140gr. Nos. BT’s for deer…kills really well to 400+ yds (last one was 450yds…longest kill shot of my life). For bigger game, I switch to 140gr. nos AB’s and usually try to reign the distance in to under 300yds if I can, just to be cautious.
Aside from everything else, the 7mm-08 and 6.5CM have this in common…the low recoil makes them fun to practice with. More practice makes a better marksman.
The 7mm-08 can efficiently use heavier lead bullets up to about 160gr. Much heavier/longer and the bullet starts cutting into powder space. Using heavier available bullets, you could make the assumption that the 7mm-08 might be slightly better for larger game (moose/elk) than the 6.5CM.
The 7mm-08 is my primary hunting cartridge. Found a sweet little Cooper Jackson Hunter at prophet river about 10 years ago. It’s a joy to carry and shoots really well. Weighs in at 7 lbs with scope and shoots sub 3/4 MOA (3 shot groups). I use the 140gr. Nos. BT’s for deer…kills really well to 400+ yds (last one was 450yds…longest kill shot of my life). For bigger game, I switch to 140gr. nos AB’s and usually try to reign the distance in to under 300yds if I can, just to be cautious.
Aside from everything else, the 7mm-08 and 6.5CM have this in common…the low recoil makes them fun to practice with. More practice makes a better marksman.
I agree, with you sir, 175 LRX loaded in 30-06 is a beast.
apologies for my original comment as I was talking in general most guys with a factory round
30-06 where most data charts show 308-3006 topping out around 500 yards however with new bullets and technology, its truly changed the game.
as for fun however let me pose this, you have to make a shot on a pop can or hell lets say 6x6 steel at 500 yards for 1 million dollars
would you be so keen to take that bet with your 06? or your 284? or for that matter your 7-08?
reading your responses I can tell you know your stuff and probably can do it with either or but what would you prefer?
also for the guys chiming in on 280 rem or 280ai 100% cant go wrong with those rounds. Ive used a 280 rem factory load fed 150 Nosler Partition
and killed moose 1 shot in their tracks.
agree with everything you just said.
numbers wise If you compare a 143eldx vs a 150eldx 7-08 numbers are slightly better.
but like you said so close same power NOTE: both of them listed numbers with Hornady are 500 yards.
You bet. 150ELDX’s or 150 Nosler Accubond Long Range in the 708 changes the game a bit.
To the OP: The NOSLER and SIERRA online data has the 708 really humpin.
It ends up a LITTLE less drop, damage, kick and barrel life than a 308 Win. GIVER!
But on top of the 280AI at 3100 that 150 ABLR gives stunning performance on small bolt face.
