Mossberg 590A1 14" Canted Sights

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Hey everyone just wanted to bring forward an ongoing issue/saga I've been dealing with regarding the 590A1 14". I purchased my copy from RDSC in the summer of 2023 and felt something was a bit off when I got it. I'd planned on putting a red dot on it and as soon as it was mounted...yup, suspicions confirmed, the sight was canted to the right. To their credit RDSC was quick to respond and frowarded me to Wolverine Supplies who deal with Mossberg's warranty claims up North. Wolverine as always were a pleasure to work with, while Mossberg.... took their sweet time. Well, I finally get a replacement barrel and lo and behold, it's still canted. Not as badly as the original but enough to sour what was supposed to be a happy reunion. I've already sent an email back to Wolverine and will update their response as I get it. I just wanted to post partly to vent and partly to see if anyone else has had issues like mine with these shorty 590's . I know they're a popular option up here and I want anybody looking into one to be aware. Going back through google it seems to be an persistent (albeit not super common) issue with these guns.


As a post rant aside: I know that functionally this is not an issue. The dot is after all my main aiming device and the sights just serve as backup. On principal though it's such a let down.When I originally purchased the shotgun the factory Mossberg rear sight was slammed all the way to the left (with no ability to adjust for windage any further) to compensate for the FS cant....tells you a lot about their QC practises.


Here are the sights when I got the 590 in 2023:

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And the replacement barrel I just received today:

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Ooof.

My 14" shotguns (an 870 and a 590A1) are bead sighted and true. I have rifle sights on an 18" 870 Wingmaster, and a 20" 590A1 retro, those are true as well.

If your receiver and mag tube are true and properly machined, I'd say you've stumbled on the only two 590A1 barrels that are poorly soldered. QC guy musta had a chip on his shoulder that day? ;)
 
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Painkillers said:
Ooof.

My 14" shotguns (an 870 and a 590A1) are bead sighted and true. I have rifle sights on an 18" 870 Wingmaster, and a 20" 590A1 retro, those are true as well.

If your receiver and mag tube are true and properly machined, I'd say you've stumbled on the only two 590A1 barrels that are poorly soldered. QC guy musta had a chip on his shoulder that day? ;)
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Make that 3 lol. Mine was canted so far I had to max the windage out on the rear sight to zero. Easy fix, sent it off to TacOrd and had Casey replace the front sight with a Vang Comp. Its now dead straight and uses AR front posts.
 
thaeffman said:
As a post rant aside: I know that functionally this is not an issue. The dot is after all my main aiming device and the sights just serve as backup. On principal though it's such a let down.When I originally purchased the shotgun the factory Mossberg rear sight was slammed all the way to the left (with no ability to adjust for windage any further) to compensate for the FS cant....tells you a lot about their QC practises.
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LOL -- isn't that made in 'murica ?
There is no way I would accept that on a new gun. Hell I wouldn't accept it on a Norinco, much less a $1000 gun.
Send it back and if you're active in any other gun groups post it. Manufacturers need to be held accountable for this type of trash.
 
manbearpig said:
LOL -- isn't that made in 'murica ?
There is no way I would accept that on a new gun. Hell I wouldn't accept it on a Norinco, much less a $1000 gun.
Send it back and if you're active in any other gun groups post it. Manufacturers need to be held accountable for this type of trash.
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I had a Ruger with a canted sight. They were like we noticed it and fixed it good enough, but still sent it.

Good ol Murica don't give a ####.
 
You’d think they’d do these in a jig so misalignment isn’t possible. Or do something like Remington, their sight bases have a small circular protrusion that aligns with a blind hole drilled top dead centre to ensure the sights are straight.
 
The worst part of this is that they shipped it with the sights adjusted all the way to the max travel -- which proves they were completely aware of it yet still sent it out. WTF is QC coming to? Seriously if this were a $5 made in China garden tool OK.... but we are talking about a $1000 gun that's promoted as chest-thumping Made in 'Murica quality.

Even Chinese and Turkish guns don't come this #%@$ed up anymore.

I'm sure there was a time long ago when Made in 'Murica was synonymous with quality, but these days it just seems to mean overpriced.
 
That sucks man, sorry for your experience.

I find the general topic slightly amusing only because Mossberg owners crap on my 870 every chance they get but this proves nothing is ideal haha
 
SilentKnight said:
That sucks man, sorry for your experience.

I find the general topic slightly amusing only because Mossberg owners crap on my 870 every chance they get but this proves nothing is ideal haha
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The recent Expresses have pretty rough manufacturing and finish issues.. so if anything this is indicative of the trash QC that US manufacturers try to foist on customers these days. The irony is that while US QC is slipping, Chinese manufacturing technology/QC is on the rise.

They need to be shamed for it, it's the only way things will change. There are probably thousands of these out there in the hands of casual gun owners that haven't even noticed the site is canted.
 
My 590a1 is with Wolverine as well. The barrel was missing the phopshate finish near the receiver. I didn't even check sight alignment.

How long did it take for your barrel to come in?
 
manbearpig said:
The recent Expresses have pretty rough manufacturing and finish issues.. so if anything this is indicative of the trash QC that US manufacturers try to foist on customers these days. The irony is that while US QC is slipping, Chinese manufacturing technology/QC is on the rise.

They need to be shamed for it, it's the only way things will change. There are probably thousands of these out there in the hands of casual gun owners that haven't even noticed the site is canted.
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Yeah, very fair points. And they should be held accountable. This seems to be an overarching theme lately...
I heard local politicans on the radio yesterday saying we may look to shutter American auto industry in Ontario in the coming years and rely more on BYD and other Chinese companies to start making plants and production factories here. Australia already has 30% - 40% Chinese autos on their roads.
The USA era of world dominance seems to be showing cracks for sure. Time will tell the rest of the story.

As for my 870, it's a custom 14" build from AAC here in BC, so it's been fully overhauled internally and I had them remove the bead and replace it with a SJ front sight post.
I love it, works great, handy size and doesn't hit the dirt when slung if you crouch down.
 
**UPDATE** Wolverine got back to me super quick. They're going to reach out to Mossberg and see what can be done. The complete shotgun might need to go back to them* (Wolverine) for measurement and testing but we'll see 🤷

Painkillers said:
Ooof.

My 14" shotguns (an 870 and a 590A1) are bead sighted and true. I have rifle sights on an 18" 870 Wingmaster, and a 20" 590A1 retro, those are true as well.

If your receiver and mag tube are true and properly machined, I'd say you've stumbled on the only two 590A1 barrels that are poorly soldered. QC guy musta had a chip on his shoulder that day? ;)
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I really really hope that this isn't the case. Me and Billy-Bob can square away our differences over some beer, but a wonky receiver?!?! I'll be damned if I let the penny pinching suits and middle managers try to weasel their way outta this 😅


supernova said:
Make that 3 lol. Mine was canted so far I had to max the windage out on the rear sight to zero. Easy fix, sent it off to TacOrd and had Casey replace the front sight with a Vang Comp. Its now dead straight and uses AR front posts.
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Damn, I was hoping I was the only poor soul with crappy luck. What's the ballpark turnaround time if you don't mind me asking? (I know TacOrd is usually slammed with work) I'm willing to wait it out via warranty but if it's an issue with barrel QC that happens again I might just go this route.

manbearpig said:
LOL -- isn't that made in 'murica ?
There is no way I would accept that on a new gun. Hell I wouldn't accept it on a Norinco, much less a $1000 gun.
Send it back and if you're active in any other gun groups post it. Manufacturers need to be held accountable for this type of trash.
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Totally agree on this and subsequent points. Just a shame to see really :(

SilentKnight said:
That sucks man, sorry for your experience.

I find the general topic slightly amusing only because Mossberg owners crap on my 870 every chance they get but this proves nothing is ideal haha
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Absolutely!!! there's always outliers and why the x vs y fanboy debates are so played out. On a side note this entire lengthy process has made me all nostalgic for the Grizzly 12.5" tube fed shotgun I bought in 2016/17. That thing was a tank....and the sights were straight. I miss that era of shotgunning in Canada R.I.P

Mik123 said:
My 590a1 is with Wolverine as well. The barrel was missing the phopshate finish near the receiver. I didn't even check sight alignment.

How long did it take for your barrel to come in?
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It took them about 18 months to get the barrel back to me. Wolverine were very quick but it took a long time from Mossberg. I speculate they manufacture the short barrels in batches hence the long wait time.


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I just bought a 20 gauge 590 with the same problem
Front sight is canted to one side and the rear ghost ring is adjusted all the way to one side from factory lol
Think I will just put a rail and a red dot on it rather then screwing around with warranty as the rest of the shotgun works perfect
My 12 gauge 590 is perfect though
 
SilentKnight said:
That sucks man, sorry for your experience.

I find the general topic slightly amusing only because Mossberg owners crap on my 870 every chance they get but this proves nothing is ideal haha
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That's odd. My experience is that it isn't a Chevy/Ford thing, most shotgunners have both models, as they are both excellent; well, usually excellent.
 
thaeffman said:
Damn, I was hoping I was the only poor soul with crappy luck. What's the ballpark turnaround time if you don't mind me asking? (I know TacOrd is usually slammed with work) I'm willing to wait it out via warranty but if it's an issue with barrel QC that happens again I might just go this route.
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It was a few years ago now but I don't think it was more than a month. That has absolutely no bearing on their current workload/turnaround of course. The price was very reasonable and as you'd expect the work is top notch.
 
I had a 590 and 500 ages ago but sold them. No particular reason, just kindof gravitated to 870s because they were easier to find parts for.
I was just thinking about picking up a 590 before seeing this thread. I think I'll hold off until I can handle it in person. I'm nitpicky AF about things like this so canted sights would make me lose my mind :eek:

If this is so common here, perhaps Mossberg is shipping blemished/B-grade stuff to Canada?
 
thaeffman said:
It took them about 18 months to get the barrel back to me. Wolverine were very quick but it took a long time from Mossberg. I speculate they manufacture the short barrels in batches hence the long wait time.


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Thanks, that's a while. I'll reach out to them to see if they can give me a turn around time. Anything more than a few months and I'll look at buying a replacement.
 
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