Tick and Lyme Disease Awareness

Where I live in the near north of ontario, the ticks seem to be getting worse every year. 5 years ago we never would have heard of ticks. This year I've pulled three off of myself already! This isn't from going hiking in the woods or anything, this is just from being on my own property in a semi-rural area. on 2 occasions it was actually our dogs that brought the ticks into the house, and the ticks left the dogs and went on our furniture, and then crawled onto the next human who sat on that furniture.

Fortunately it seems that so far we have got all the ticks very promptly, when they were still very small and obviously hadn't been latched on for long. I've kept the ticks just in case, but there have been no rashes or other symptoms to raise concern.

My big question, and this is a bit off topic, is how some people manage to have the tick latch on long enough to give them Lyme disease? all my Googling tells me that the tick generally has to be bitten in for 24 to 36 hours in order to give you Lyme disease. That's a long time to have a bug stuck on you and not notice. Or more to my point, that's a long time to have a bug Stuck on You without your s ex partner noticing! I mean, if my wife had a tick stuck on her, I promise you I would see it! It makes me wonder if the solution to Lyme disease isn't just for people to have more regular s ex?! 😀. I'm only half joking.

When I read that Shania Twain got Lyme disease, I really was shocked. How is it possible that one of the best looking woman in Canadian history has such a Spartan s ex life that a tick was able to go undetected for 36 hours?? Something is not right with the universe there...
Honest question, when is the last time you put your finger in your belly button & checked for a tick?

So, there ya have it...
 
yes i had an EPI pen at one point...my friend offered to feed me shrimp and then stab me with it but he was disappointed that it is not a heart stab like Pulp Fiction

I managed to get a "better" pic of it

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Yes, ,damage to my shades and clothes is definitely a concern.

RL
It doesn't look like a tick bite to me, but I'm no doctor!

ILADS dot org is a great resource AND, if in doubt, it's better to take a course of antibiotics to hopefully avoid Lyme disease...
 
Honest question, when is the last time you put your finger in your belly button & checked for a tick?

So, there ya have it...
honest answer, which kind of proves my point: not to get too much into it, but my belly button is an inny that has a propensity for collecting belly button lint. The Missus has made it clear that she finds that distasteful, so whenever I'm getting ready for deployment, so to speak, the first thing I do is clean out that belly button! So I think I have a valid point in there somewhere: I bet you if the data existed and we could make a chart, we would see an inverse correlation between the people who have more active se x lives and the people who get Lyme disease.
 
Unless your BMI number looks like a decent IQ number, a full body tick check should burn up around 90 seconds of your life 3-4 times a day. Permethrin is magical stuff though if you use it to treat clothing. Scotch tape is good if you get the heebie jeebies touching ticks.
 
No more pics, just see your doctor.

But it looks like you got stung, not bitten. Lots of people are allergic to all kinds of stings.
 
My money is on the Mosquito bite.

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I mean, what’s the worst that could happen? It’s not like you usually eat fancy meats! Lol!

"Developing allergies to meat after a tick bite is often associated with a condition known as Alpha-gal syndrome. This syndrome is linked to bites from certain types of ticks, particularly the Maple Leaf tick in the Canada/Ontario."
 
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Change of topic ..... there seem to be less ticks this year. Anybody else noticed this?

I have been out to the property every week end since March and so far I have only caught 3 ticks on me.
Normally ... and in the last couple of years ... I had 20 or 30 crawling on me by the end of May.

I am just east of Ottawa.
 
Change of topic ..... there seem to be less ticks this year. Anybody else noticed this?

I have been out to the property every week end since March and so far I have only caught 3 ticks on me.
Normally ... and in the last couple of years ... I had 20 or 30 crawling on me by the end of May.

I am just east of Ottawa.
My buddy had four on him this morning after an hour, turkey hunting in the woods north of Kingston..........
 
Change of topic ..... there seem to be less ticks this year. Anybody else noticed this?

I have been out to the property every week end since March and so far I have only caught 3 ticks on me.
Normally ... and in the last couple of years ... I had 20 or 30 crawling on me by the end of May.

I am just east of Ottawa.
Tons around in my neck of the woods, but Kanada is a pretty vast country. I would say there are less here compared to warm and wet years, but the last time I had a tick on me was 10 minutes ago. I went bear hunting, well, looking for bear poop/sign a few weeks back, and ended up removing 16-18, and then mrssaskgunowner found another 11 when I got home and stripped.
 
Hey Guys;

Many areas in Canada, like Ontario, are endemic for ticks and Lyme Disease. About 1/3 of ticks carry it. Here's the link to the Ontario Lyme Risk Map 2020, and keep in mind that ticks can be anywhere because ticks are transported by migratory birds.

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https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-/media/documents/l/2020/lyme-disease-risk-area-map-2020.pdf

With tick bites, most never know they were bit. A tick that fits inside the zero on one of our dimes can transmit Lyme Disease and other bacterial co-infections.

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Don't let anyone tell you that the tick has to be attached a certain amount of time, that's simply not true, a bite IS A BITE!!! It's also important to know that not everyone develops the bullseye rash.

If you have flu like symptoms, chronic fatigue, malaise, muscle/joint pain, memory fog, cognitive issues etc., get to the Doctor for antibiotics and don't let them dismiss you because you didn't see a tick bite OR get the rash. Health Canada and Public Health Ontario agree, Lyme disease is mainly diagnosed through clinical symptoms and a history of exposure to ticks.

Here are links those documents:

https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/h...s/pdf/medeff/bulletin/carn-bcei_v22n4-eng.pdf

https://www.publichealthontario.ca/...6/lyme-disease-prevention-technical.pdf?la=en

Early on, Lyme Disease can be treated with antibiotics. Left undiagnosed, Lyme Disease will attack the heart, brain, joints, connective tissue, muscles, digestive system, skin, eyesight, hearing etc and because it mimics other diseases, prolonged misdiagnosis by Canada's Lyme-Illiterate Doctors is extremely common.

Chronic Lyme, which is defined as 5 weeks post infection, is another story. That outcome depends on how long you had it, and how your body reacts to long term antibiotic treatment. Furthermore, Chronic Lyme Disease can permanently disable and worse, it can kill. See the story about Gabe Magnotta, co-founder of Magnotta Winery and a hunting & hunting dog enthusiast who died after a 7 year battle with it.

Here's that link:
https://www.gmagnottafoundation.com/about

Now, back to 'getting to the doctor'. They will run what is called an Elisa C6 test that is so unreliable and riddled with false negatives, most patients are misdiagnosed for months or years and bounced from 'specialist' to 'specialist'. But, 'if' the Elisa C6 happens to come back positive, they will then run a Western Blot, and 'if' all the markers are hit in the Western Blot, they will diagnose you with Lyme Disease and treat.

Here's a copy of a peer reviewed document showing that the Elisa C6 test is only 48.6% sensitive, meaning 51.4% of Lyme positive cases are missed.

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Now, if you've stuck with me this far, and you and hopefully your Doctor still suspect Lyme Disease, just pay out of pocket and GET TESTED by either Igenex in California OR Armin Labs in Germany. Both are CLIA accredited labs, they have to be as they are handling human samples/testing, and equivalent to our Canadian labs.

One note on Specialist(s). If your Doctor says that Lyme Disease is beyond the scope of their practise, warning bells should be going off in your head! This tells you that it is no longer about you, your Doctor is legally trying to meet their 'standard of care' by referring you on to a 'specialist'. You must then demand that the specialist they refer you to is both Lyme Literate AND ILADS trained. Do NOT accept anything else as most Canadian doctors, specialists included, are Lyme-Illiterate. Most will look at your negative C6 Elisa, glance at your positive serology from either Igenex or Armin, say that they don't recognize laboratory results from outside our jurisdiction AND send you on your way saying your symptoms could be anything.

I believe a monumental change is coming wrt acceptable testing and Lyme Disease because of a court case currently underway in the USA, "Torrey VS IDSA". ***Note: Private insurance companies have already settled out of court... That tells you something!

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Private CLIA accredited labs like Igenex and Armin are leading the way with tests that are much more sensitive than the antiquated and inaccurate Elisa C6 which Canadian Dr's point to in order to dismiss Lyme Disease as the cause for a patients suite of symptoms. Once Torrey VS IDSA is settled, testing standards will be updated in both the USA and Canada. Only then will doctors who dismissed their patients symptoms of Lyme Disease, realize their standard of care was lacking for patients.

In the meantime, tick awareness and prevention is key. Use permethrin and ensure that your dog is on something like NexGard Spectra that kills ticks.

Cheers
Jay
P.S. Anyone that knows they've been bit by a tick should demand a course of antibiotics. Why? Because the same flawed methodology used to diagnose Lyme Disease in Canada, is what they use to test the tick... And the majority of ticks tested will come back with a false negative. Just GET the antibiotics!

Now here's a test to see if you are paying attention. The patient below is presenting with Lyme symptoms, and the Doctor is saying let's run an Elisa C6 test... What's wrong with this scenario? (Answers below picture.)

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First, the Doctor should be diagnosing clinically as per Health Canada AND Public Health Ontario recommendations.

Second, the C6 Elisa test is known to be tremendously flawed and its poor sensitivity means most cases of Lyme are missed.

Third, any patient suspecting they have lyme needs to be aware that it is no longer about you when their primary care physician says lyme disease is beyond the scope of their practice &/or they are referring you on to another MD. This is about their legal obligations wrt standard of care, and they are covering their a$$. You must then demand that whoever they send you to be both Lyme Literate & ILADS trained to prevent being ping-ponged from specialist to specialist.
Fantastic information. Thank you for posting it!
 
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