The Italian SG Built for Modern Threats The Beretta 1301

Painkillers said:
The 1301 Mk2 has the ability to, when manually pull the charging handle back, extracting and ejecting the shell in the chamber without one being released from the mag tube and on to the lifter. So, one could (should) place a special circumstance load in a match saver. The Garand Thumb vid is talking about drone defence when he talks about this function. The gun could be loaded with buck or slugs and a tungsten birdshot shell in the matchsaver...maybe even a 3" for further reach? Should a drone appear, simply pop in the shell for the drone.

Our applications, hunting. Let's say your deer hunting and a nice fat Quail pops out of the bush and lands on a branch 20 yards to your left. A quick shell swap has you eating Quail...try it with the buck shot, and well, suffice to say not much Quail left. Fumbling around in a dump pouch for a low brass round, the Quail is gone.

The 1301 must release the shell from the mag tube onto the lifter as the bolt comes forward (if there isn't a shell in front of the bolt that is)? A handy design.
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I've never understood how to get those ghost loads loaded into the gun. People say some guns are capable of that but I've never seen it done
 
infidel29 said:
I've never understood how to get those ghost loads loaded into the gun. People say some guns are capable of that but I've never seen it done
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Its simple.

Engage the safety then cycle the gun (to ensure the hammer is cocked). Load the magazine to full capacity, then (in this order) drop a round into the chamber and with the bolt held about 3/4 ways open drop a round onto the gate. I always move it back towards the rear of the gate as I find that is more reliable. I would practice with dummies first for obvious reasons.

This is how I start competitions (if the stage specifies loaded start of course).

Word of warning, be careful around the extractor when ghost loading. If the bolt slipped at the wrong time it could end up in your thumb, and worst case it could get "hooked" onto the flesh. Don't ask how I know that......
 
Painkillers said:
I honestly have no idea what it would take to successfully take a drone down. Some of them are so fast moving, unless it was coming straight on at you in a dive, I don't think you could hit them, let alone disable it. The horizontal/ windage lead would be ridiculous.

Having said that, I believe a 3.5" shell with the the heaviest payload containing the most pellets would give one the best chance against one. Bismuth and or Tungsten loads?
This is Federal flight control, but the shot cup may actually be a negative when trying to clip 100 mph drones out of the air? Perhaps something that spreads better?
https://www.federalpremium.com/shotshell/heavyweight-tss/11-PTSSX191F+9.html

These damn shells are almost as expensive as the bloody drones!? $100 Usd for 5 shells! :oops:
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10ga #4 buck has I think 54 pellets. Thst would be my choice
 
Sniffer said:
Word of warning, be careful around the extractor when ghost loading. If the bolt slipped at the wrong time it could end up in your thumb, and worst case it could get "hooked" onto the flesh. Don't ask how I know that......
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Been there done that, right under the side of my thumb nail. Turned all sorts of pretty colors.
 
Practice and training would be the hardest part. You need someone, or something tossing clays towards you very, very fast.
At the ranges the clays are moving away from you like a flushed bird, and not towards you to kill you.

I woud need lots of training to be any good shooting down those - with any type of ammo.
 
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