Ruger 10/22 package estimated cost

[Declared Bishop]

Dangerous? Wow overreacting much?

No, not at all. You may think the risk is acceptable, but not everyone is as smart as you.

Think of a car. Its been sitting in a barn for 20 years. Metal can rust, become pitted, and yes, even stainless steel can. Gun and cars are both made with metal, and require lubrication. I myself, not as smart as you, oh great one, wouldn't trust that everything is ok, and without being able to bore scope it, and take the rifle apart to inspect everything, probably with a reputable gun smith, yeah, I am taking a risk on it, so I am not going to offer top dollar on it. You, in your infinite wisdom might. I don't know. But you certainly make a lot of assumptions, and don't seem to take safety very seriously for someone "military trained". You rely on that excuse a lot, but we all know people that were #### in the military, you might be one of them. I don't know you except from your online persona here, and the same goes for you regarding me. so stop being an ass hat and giving bad advice.

So yes, I stand by my original assessment. I can't thoroughly verify the condition, and all the OP tells us is that its been sitting for 20 years. The risk involved diminishes the value. You don't agree with me, and that's fine, but quit trying to start ####. I get you like to be dramatic and start drama, I see that in a lot of your posts, and this isn't the first time you have tried to come after me, but if anyone is being dramatic here, it's you.

 

[BlackPowderBurner]

No, not at all. You may think the risk is acceptable, but not everyone is as smart as you.

Think of a car. Its been sitting in a barn for 20 years. Metal can rust, become pitted, and yes, even stainless steel can. Gun and cars are both made with metal, and require lubrication. I myself, not as smart as you, oh great one, wouldn't trust that everything is ok, and without being able to bore scope it, and take the rifle apart to inspect everything, probably with a reputable gun smith, yeah, I am taking a risk on it, so I am not going to offer top dollar on it. You, in your infinite wisdom might. I don't know. But you certainly make a lot of assumptions, and don't seem to take safety very seriously for someone "military trained". You rely on that excuse a lot, but we all know people that were #### in the military, you might be one of them. I don't know you except from your online persona here, and the same goes for you regarding me. so stop being an ass hat and giving bad advice.

So yes, I stand by my original assessment. I can't thoroughly verify the condition, and all the OP tells us is that its been sitting for 20 years. The risk involved diminishes the value. You don't agree with me, and that's fine, but quit trying to start ####. I get you like to be dramatic and start drama, I see that in a lot of your posts, and this isn't the first time you have tried to come after me, but if anyone is being dramatic here, it's you.

Thank you for displaying your knowledge and experience.

 

[jethunter]

Rifles will last for generations if they are stored dry and oiled occasionally.

I have firearms from the 1800s that were not especially well cared for that are still completely viable.

 

[OkayShooter]

No, not at all. You may think the risk is acceptable, but not everyone is as smart as you.

Think of a car. Its been sitting in a barn for 20 years. Metal can rust, become pitted, and yes, even stainless steel can. Gun and cars are both made with metal, and require lubrication. I myself, not as smart as you, oh great one, wouldn't trust that everything is ok, and without being able to bore scope it, and take the rifle apart to inspect everything, probably with a reputable gun smith, yeah, I am taking a risk on it, so I am not going to offer top dollar on it. You, in your infinite wisdom might. I don't know. But you certainly make a lot of assumptions, and don't seem to take safety very seriously for someone "military trained". You rely on that excuse a lot, but we all know people that were #### in the military, you might be one of them. I don't know you except from your online persona here, and the same goes for you regarding me. so stop being an ass hat and giving bad advice.

So yes, I stand by my original assessment. I can't thoroughly verify the condition, and all the OP tells us is that its been sitting for 20 years. The risk involved diminishes the value. You don't agree with me, and that's fine, but quit trying to start ####. I get you like to be dramatic and start drama, I see that in a lot of your posts, and this isn't the first time you have tried to come after me, but if anyone is being dramatic here, it's you.

No I'm not starting sh!t, called education. Who is the one that got their panties in a twist and trying to start stuff? Who is being the azzhole actually? Did I personally insult you, did I bring up your job? No, I said you are over reacting in assuming the gun is rusted pos.. You are implying I was a #### soldier and personally insulting me. Seriously. You owe me an apology. I think you are cut off from the booze for the night.

So who coming after who? I just see you coming after me.

Don't need a bore scope to really inspect the bore. You'll be able to tell visually. I buy alot of guns that are older than you and sat for longer. Doesn't mean I dont do my due diligence. Fixed 130 year old 22LR, back when they used black powder. Had many pitted bore rifles. Manly 60 plus year old guns. A 20 year 10/22 likely is fine.

Safety? Ha you don't know me. Wear PPE and questionable guns get the string and rest method. But its 22LR.

A gun just because its not used in 20 years old doesnt mean it poorly maintained, a rusted pos, or being neglected. Like I said I got guns that have not used in 10 years, doesn't mean I dont once in a blue moon check on it. Who is assuming?


Oh BTW, I think I'm at owning over 300 firearms, soooooo.. I may know a thing or two more about used guns. I started my firearn career under 18 hanging out at old timer gunshops and learned a thing or two. I learned shooting from old bulleyes shooters.

 

[jethunter]

No, not at all. You may think the risk is acceptable, but not everyone is as smart as you.

Think of a car. Its been sitting in a barn for 20 years. Metal can rust, become pitted, and yes, even stainless steel can. Gun and cars are both made with metal, and require lubrication. I myself, not as smart as you, oh great one, wouldn't trust that everything is ok, and without being able to bore scope it, and take the rifle apart to inspect everything, probably with a reputable gun smith, yeah, I am taking a risk on it, so I am not going to offer top dollar on it. You, in your infinite wisdom might. I don't know. But you certainly make a lot of assumptions, and don't seem to take safety very seriously for someone "military trained". You rely on that excuse a lot, but we all know people that were #### in the military, you might be one of them. I don't know you except from your online persona here, and the same goes for you regarding me. so stop being an ass hat and giving bad advice.

So yes, I stand by my original assessment. I can't thoroughly verify the condition, and all the OP tells us is that its been sitting for 20 years. The risk involved diminishes the value. You don't agree with me, and that's fine, but quit trying to start ####. I get you like to be dramatic and start drama, I see that in a lot of your posts, and this isn't the first time you have tried to come after me, but if anyone is being dramatic here, it's you.

You're quite new to guns and shooting, obviously, and don't know much on the subject being discussed but you offered an opinion anyway. That's the beauty of forums, you can join as a newbie and be offering expert advice in 6 months.

Saying something silly and then being embarrassed by the response is the cost of offering advice without having any experience in the subject. It's a life lesson but only if you're clever enough to learn from it.

Making personal insults about a man's life and livliehood because you are embarrassed is not right. You owe someone an apology.

 

[OkayShooter]

The guy could take 500$, you never know. Could want to see a new shooter enjoy what he hasn't had time for, or could been a collector and is aging and time to thin the heard.

Unless its been stored in a super moist environment, the gun is likely fine. But you'll see if they send pictures or you go to inspect it..

10/22 Target stainless are excellent guns, and Id assume that is what the model is. But the gun is likely fine and if you get a great deal win win..

I'm willing to let DB tantrum slide and chalk it up to a life lesson. I learned by listening to the older generations. Oh and Ive driven 20 year old barn finds.

 

[peacefrog]

This thread is funny. We have a new-ish shooter looking to purchase his first .22, in discussion with a fellow who has an old 10/22 that's been tucked away in a closet for 2 decades...and the advice is to get a borescope? What planet do you guys live on?

Combine that with "advice" that suggests a gun left unfired for 20 years somehow quietly degrades and falls apart to the point of being dangerous. Of course it's possible that the gun is unfit to shoot for various reasons, but sitting untouched for a period of time isn't one of those reasons. If it was safe to shoot when it went into the closet, and was oiled and stored properly, it's just as good now as it was then. And, as many here have stated, one made then might very well be superior to a new one in the store today, although I think you'd need to go back a bit farther than just 20 years to gain that benefit.

If you like the thing, I'd offer the seller about $400, and would likely go no higher than $500 for the whole package if I really liked it. Do they sometimes sell for more? Sure, but that doesn't mean you can't find a good deal for much less. A good used .22 is not difficult to find at a good price.

Thank you. You have a lot of patience. It took about 4-5 posts for this thread to go sideways... I love CGN

 

[Buck1950]

With a '500+' count he's obviously 'low-balling' to keep his profit margin valid in the market. A 20-year old Ruger is WAY better Quality than 'modern stuff' and so would justify a premium . . . and I don't even like them. Much rather get a Marlin 60 of that vintage.

 

[legi0n]

suggests a gun left unfired for 20 years somehow quietly degrades and falls apart to the point of being dangerous. Of course it's possible that the gun is unfit to shoot for various reasons, but sitting untouched for a period of time isn't one of those reasons. If it was safe to shoot when it went into the closet, and was oiled and stored properly, it's just as good now as it was then.

but the buyer doesn't know how the firearms was stored and maintained
here in Burnaby, the relative humidity hovers around 60-65% on a yearly average. Currently at 23C it sits at 51%
in Maple Ridge the average hovers around 30-40%
if the dwelling is on the edge of water.... more humidity
20 years without regular maintenance in a humid environment is not good

we just don't know
the buyer doesn't know either

 

[jp321]

Thanks for all the responses. There are a lot of things I never considered as a new shooter.

The main take away I got is I need to get more information on this as well as maybe go take a look at the rifle itself to see the accessories and condition. I actually do have a boroscope, not for guns but I assume a boroscope is a boroscope? Am I mainly just looking for rust inside?

I did ask him how he would feel about 700 and he said minimum 900 because now he says the scope it worth 400 and he also has a special target trigger that he forgot to mention before.

 

[jjohnwm]

Lol, the scope is minimum 20 years old...maybe a lot older, but that's how long it's been stored...and it's a 2-10x36? What kind of scope is it? I don't personally recall any quality scopes with those numbers, so I'm gonna call BS on the seller's claim that it's worth $400. It's probably some bargain-basement off-brand piece of crap glass, which is sadly what a lot of people put on their rimfires. Might be worth $400 if it comes with nine other identical ones as a package.

This seller sounds as though he writes some of the ads we see so often in the EE. You know the type: "Rare, rare, rare!"..."testing the waters"..."gauging interest"...and the ever-popular "I don't care if it doesn't sell, I'll just put it back into the safe".

With a '500+' count he's obviously 'low-balling' to keep his profit margin valid in the market. A 20-year old Ruger is WAY better Quality than 'modern stuff' and so would justify a premium . . . and I don't even like them. Much rather get a Marlin 60 of that vintage.

I'm not sure if that's referring to me? If so, I don't flip guns for profit; might make a few bucks on one, but just as likely to lose some on the next one. I buy guns I want to try, I sell most after I have played with them; If I sell too quickly and lose a few bucks, I consider that the cost of ownership, the price paid for some experience with the thing. That's my motivation for transactions, spread out over a number of years. Of course I want to pay as little as I can, and to sell for as much as possible, but low-balling for the sake of my "profit margin"? Lol, sorry, no.

I agree, I'd take a Marlin over the Ruger any day. My first 10/22 was a Deluxe model, walnut, metal triggerguard, very nice blue and finish. Probably owned another dozen since then, and watched the progression of build quality and finish go steadily down the tubes.

 

[Longstud]

If it has a SS heavy barrel it’s probably the target model as mentioned. Twenty years old is a bonus as mentioned. The mags are $40 plus tax each now and the drum needs to be pinned as mentioned so worthless or not much. The ammo’s wort 75% of retail and the scope is dependant on make and model as mentioned. I’d say $600 -$650 would be a fair price for both parties! Buy the gun and have some fun jp321

 

[horseman2]

Part of every negotiation is the price. What is the seller asking?
Form there you can either accept or counter.
As to the opinions, the wide variety of suggestions is only a guide as to where you are comfortable.
If the price is outside your comfort zone then the negotiations are over.

 

[jethunter]

Find out what the scope is. There are not many +20 year old scopes worth anywhere close to $400 today. Scopes are the opposite of firearms, in that quality has gotten far better since 20 years ago.

I probably wouldn't pay $900 for that package. Sometimes the buyer and seller are too far apart to make a deal. What usually happens when the seller's expectations are too high is he turns down several reasonable offers until eventually reality sinks in and asking price is lowered.

Tell him it's too much and you will pass. Call him back in 1-2 months and ask if the price has come down.