Bush rifle for 250yds

seamusm said:
Depends on where you're hunting. If you're in Ontario you'll need to stay under the .270 (6.8mm) limit for many WMU. That said, 6.5 Creedmoor or 6.5 Grendel will do the job out to 250m and not kill your shoulder if the rifle is light.
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Not quite right. In southern Ontario, yes. With the exception of Essex County that allows up to .243 for their rifle season, the jurisdictions that allow center fire rifle for Deer in Ontario have no caliber restrictions. Most southern Ontario jurisdictions only allow bow, black powder, and shotgun deer hunts.
 
simonsez said:
Not easy on the shoulder like OP asked for
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One well placed shot is all you need. Bigger is more knock-down power. Recoil is not an issue. Range day with the 9.3 x 62 with no recoil pad is about 4 rounds; with recoil pads, 20 is possible. If you have to empty the mag on a deer, stay home. Please.
 
Meroh said:
One well placed shot is all you need. Bigger is more knock-down power. Recoil is not an issue. Range day with the 9.3 x 62 with no recoil pad is about 4 rounds; with recoil pads, 20 is possible. If you have to empty the mag on a deer, stay home. Please.
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Easy on the shoulder caliber, like OP asked, means more practice than 4 shots
 
iron cat said:
Almost anything in the 308 sized case capacity will do fine.
IMO the rifle the cartridge is in is far more important than the cartridge itself.

One needs to have confidence in their shooting when using a rifle , and a 11 pound gun with a 26 " barrel with a big scope on it is cumbersome to work in the tight stuff although it would be fine at 200 yards, regardless if it is in 7STW or 257 Roberts.
However, a 7 or 8 pound, 22" barreled gun with a 4X scope on it will work very well in close quarters and still be fine out to 300 , in the aforementioned cartridges like the 257Bob, 260 whatevers, the smaller 7's, 308win, etc.
Mine is perfectly set up for exactly that with over 30 kills on it, in 303 Brit.
Furthest white tail was just over 370 yards with a heart shot using a 1.5-4X scope
First pic was 175 yards
Second one was at 12 yards
Cat
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This is good advice..my favorite scope is my Leopold 4x. Sometimes less is more
 
brybenn said:
Still can't believe that cartridge never really caught on
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I think if the manufacturers had marketted it better here in Canada, and continued to offer rifles in the chambering, more hunters would have the option and probably take it over a .308 . I know 3 guys personally with rifles in .338 fed that aren't members here. Part of thier decision was made at the reloading bench because they also hunt with .338win mag. Kind of consolidating calibers as they utilize the same bullets.

instead , we have an industry pumping out 6.5 creedmores like the caliber is the global do all hunting caliber LOL
 
45ACPKING said:
I think if the manufacturers had marketted it better here in Canada, and continued to offer rifles in the chambering, more hunters would have the option and probably take it over a .308 . I know 3 guys personally with rifles in .338 fed that aren't members here. Part of thier decision was made at the reloading bench because they also hunt with .338win mag. Kind of consolidating calibers as they utilize the same bullets.

instead , we have an industry pumping out 6.5 creedmores like the caliber is the global do all hunting caliber LOL
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I bought a 783 with plans to rebarrel but it shoots so well I kept it as a 308. Couldn't find a sako 338 fed at the time
 
OP, take you pick of just about any centerfire RIFLE cartridge 6mm and larger diameter.

22 caliber, centerfire or rimfire are legal in some provinces for big game, if you're shooting bullets over a specified weight, but whether they're ethical or not is another story.

If you're only plinking, whatever your pocketbook can handle.

If you're price constrained, take a look at the offerings on Intersurplus. A banner sponsor at the top of the page.

Many of the rifles offered there are excellent quality, chambered for readily available ammunition in most outlets, small pop or big box, and at very decent prices.

At the ranges you've suggested, which is about maximum for most responsible shooters to hit what they're pointing at, the selection of quality firearms and quality chamber options is fantastic, and it won't be around forever. The rifles offered there are used, out of Europe for the most part, and when they're gone, there won't be any more.

Take a look and consider your options.

If you're looking for a package deal, including scopes, there may be some options available from Savage, etc. They won't appreciate in value, but they're plenty accurate enough for what you want.
 
I guess when I think about a "bush rifle" I assume the hunter is wanting the rifle for hunting in the bush.... this is why is think for a bush rifle, .30 cal and larger. Bullet deflection would be my biggest concern with anything smaller and that's another reason I chose .338fed.
For open country there are endless choices and the 6, 6.5 ,7 ect would be great choices ..... but they really weren't designed to be "bush rifle" calibers.
 
45ACPKING said:
I guess when I think about a "bush rifle" I assume the hunter is wanting the rifle for hunting in the bush.... this is why is think for a bush rifle, .30 cal and larger. Bullet deflection would be my biggest concern with anything smaller and that's another reason I chose .338fed.
For open country there are endless choices and the 6, 6.5 ,7 ect would be great choices ..... but they really weren't designed to be "bush rifle" calibers.
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Thete have been numerous tests over the years by people such as Sell, Seyfried, Page, etc.
The consensus has always been that all bullets deflect regardless of diameter or speed.
I have seen actual results of animals missed or hit badly from both a
6.5 bullet and a .311 bullet. With the offending branch recovered .😅
Cat
 
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