I’m preferring the 127 LRX bullet and my only WANTED COMPARISON is the Hornady 130 CX . At least u were a Barnes ttsx bullet not a CUP & CORE ! I have shot lots of 120 TTSX bullets .
6.5 CM Hunting Bullet
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This post was about 6.5 CM using Barnes 127LRX and Hornady 130 CX bullets ONLY ! Again ! Don’t give a HECK hearing about other bullets or weights ! 
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START YOUR OWN THREAD ABOUT YOUR DEAR TO YOU BULLETS. !
Thanks !START YOUR OWN THREAD ABOUT YOUR DEAR TO YOU BULLETS. !
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Along with many others !
Dorian Gray
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Well that's interesting. What type of federal loads were they using?
You can only assume the shots. Are well placed if the animals were not recovered.
Lots of fellas up here using cheap Federal ammo every year and dropping a ton of animals.
I have shot , developed loads , or personally hunted with over 10 different 6.5 cartridges from the 6.5 Mannlicher Schoenauer to the 6.5STW, and never had a problem with accuracy or killing power in any of them.
In the obsolete and " anemic " 6.5MS , we have used everything from cheap 160 grain round nosed bullets all the way down to 129 grain monos for everything from moose to coyotes.
They all work if you put them where they are supposed to go!
Cat
We were hunting in Quebec and the bush is very thick. I watched one of the strikes, mid line, just behind shoulder. We both thought this would be a sure thing, basically didn’t have any concerns. The deer was on the bush line and had turned in when shot. We thought it wouldn’t have gone more than 15 m or so. But found no blood. And we searched for a long time. Radiating arcs, everything. If we’d been allowed a dog, I’m sure we’d have found it, but I reckon it went over 80 yards without blood trail.You can only assume the shots. Are well placed if the animals were not recovered.
Lots of fellas up here using cheap Federal ammo every year and dropping a ton of animals.
I have shot , developed loads , or personally hunted with over 10 different 6.5 cartridges from the 6.5 Mannlicher Schoenauer to the 6.5STW, and never had a problem with accuracy or killing power in any of them.
In the obsolete and " anemic " 6.5MS , we have used everything from cheap 160 grain round nosed bullets all the way down to 129 grain monos for everything from moose to coyotes.
They all work if you put them where they are supposed to go!
Cat
Like I stated, unless it was revovered there is no way of knowing if the hit was good or not.
Even just behind the shoulder if the hit was a bit above the lungs it would be in the attic .
Cat
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Prolly fusion ammo or some other delayed controlled expansion. Dead deer if hit where said regardless. Just not found. Switch to rapid expansion cup core and walk up to everything. Easy.
If you buy into ‘lead is bad’ that’s on you, bout as real as cwd, covid, climate change, men can get pregnant etc.
If you buy into ‘lead is bad’ that’s on you, bout as real as cwd, covid, climate change, men can get pregnant etc.
I have not tried either bullet (or factory ammo) in my 6.5 CM, but have tried them in my 6.5 PRC.
My rifle's 24" Wilson carbon fibre barrel did not care much for either form in the factory ammo, accuracy wise (1.5-2"+ groups...while 1.5 MOA is still good enough for hunting, I prefer to use MOA or better loads for my hunting with my bolt actions).
Velocity wise, the Hdy CX ammo was faster than spec by 135 fps, whereas the LRX ammo was slightly slower than spec by 46 fps. Please note that this rifles has produced MOA or better groups with 8 other factory ammunition loads, ranging from the Federal Terminal Ascent 130 gr ammo to the Hdy Precision Hunter 143 gr ELD-X ammo, with the best performance coming from the Nosler 142 gr ABLR ammo (0.480" groups on average at 2921 fps).
As this ammo has not performed as well in my rifle, I have not hunted with them so cannot give a first hand account of these bullets' on-game performance. There is a wide assortment of reports out their as illustrated in the above comments.
Paper punching performance is great for bragging rights, and confidence in placing bullets accurately in the vitals, but the true proof is in the on-game performance in the field over a large group of animals taken for good comparison. This is what will ultimately influence your perspective of each bullet's capabilities.
Try both, and see which performs better in your rifle. Then let us know what type of on-game performance you get.
My rifle's 24" Wilson carbon fibre barrel did not care much for either form in the factory ammo, accuracy wise (1.5-2"+ groups...while 1.5 MOA is still good enough for hunting, I prefer to use MOA or better loads for my hunting with my bolt actions).
Velocity wise, the Hdy CX ammo was faster than spec by 135 fps, whereas the LRX ammo was slightly slower than spec by 46 fps. Please note that this rifles has produced MOA or better groups with 8 other factory ammunition loads, ranging from the Federal Terminal Ascent 130 gr ammo to the Hdy Precision Hunter 143 gr ELD-X ammo, with the best performance coming from the Nosler 142 gr ABLR ammo (0.480" groups on average at 2921 fps).
As this ammo has not performed as well in my rifle, I have not hunted with them so cannot give a first hand account of these bullets' on-game performance. There is a wide assortment of reports out their as illustrated in the above comments.
Paper punching performance is great for bragging rights, and confidence in placing bullets accurately in the vitals, but the true proof is in the on-game performance in the field over a large group of animals taken for good comparison. This is what will ultimately influence your perspective of each bullet's capabilities.
Try both, and see which performs better in your rifle. Then let us know what type of on-game performance you get.
Hand Skills
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Dead is dead,
...but unrecovered is unrecovered
I think there is something to be said for soft point (lead tipped) bullets at moderate velocity. Core-lok's, Interlocks, and Hot Cores all have performed very reliably at moderate speeds. Partitions even moreso!
Some of the new bullets just don't expand (and fragment) the way the old ones did. This is particularly true of monos.
I once double lunged a doe WT and she went 200yd. Bullet was a 160gr Accubond. Impact velocity about 2600fps. It was snowing and I was lucky to recover the deer...
Seen an elk travel over a mile double lunged with an early Barnes bullet.
I examine the the organs on pretty much every kill, and I have seen some very narrow wound channels over the years, and specifically in those two examples above - caliber size in and near caliber size out - almost like FMJ.
Some folks close their tag when they draw blood. In some situations that is the law.
I'm not going to judge anyone else on this, but animals can be tough... An unrecovered animal can mean an empty freezer, regardless of one's own ethics.
Shot placement is always #1, but bullet performance can really influence what happens after the metal hits the meat. Personally, I do everything I can to ensure a quick kill and successful recovery, and (again, speaking for myself) bullet selection is a part of that.
...but unrecovered is unrecovered
I think there is something to be said for soft point (lead tipped) bullets at moderate velocity. Core-lok's, Interlocks, and Hot Cores all have performed very reliably at moderate speeds. Partitions even moreso!
Some of the new bullets just don't expand (and fragment) the way the old ones did. This is particularly true of monos.
I once double lunged a doe WT and she went 200yd. Bullet was a 160gr Accubond. Impact velocity about 2600fps. It was snowing and I was lucky to recover the deer...
Seen an elk travel over a mile double lunged with an early Barnes bullet.
I examine the the organs on pretty much every kill, and I have seen some very narrow wound channels over the years, and specifically in those two examples above - caliber size in and near caliber size out - almost like FMJ.
Some folks close their tag when they draw blood. In some situations that is the law.
I'm not going to judge anyone else on this, but animals can be tough... An unrecovered animal can mean an empty freezer, regardless of one's own ethics.
Shot placement is always #1, but bullet performance can really influence what happens after the metal hits the meat. Personally, I do everything I can to ensure a quick kill and successful recovery, and (again, speaking for myself) bullet selection is a part of that.
Is it better to package most of the meat all the time or all of the meat some of the time?
Bullets matter most. Choose wisely.
NoThis post was about 6.5 CM using Barnes 127LRX and Hornady 130 CX bullets ONLY ! Again ! Don’t give a HECK hearing about other bullets or weights !
START YOUR OWN THREAD ABOUT YOUR DEAR TO YOU BULLETS. !
Hijack warranted. Bringing you to creek, the drinking part is up to you. And the hijack more for all other readers so they choose more wisely.
This is important.
Ps; the thread title is 6.5cm ‘hunting bullet’.
There’s a difference in dead is dead if within sight and walk right up to it or 100 yards over the ridge and down it the thick stuff. Your freezer or god’s freezer, roll your dice.
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Hijack warranted. Bringing you to creek, the drinking part is up to you. And the hijack more for all other readers so they choose more wisely.
This is important.
Ps; the thread title is 6.5cm ‘hunting bullet’.
There’s a difference in dead is dead if within sight and walk right up to it or 100 yards over the ridge and down it the thick stuff. Your freezer or god’s freezer, roll your dice.
You certainly Have !
