WTF - Electrically fired ML!!

Not for me. Wonder how well it will perform in the rain? How about a good fall and the electronic board cracks?

This is wacky crap for the range not for tough hunting conditions.
 
Not for me. Wonder how well it will perform in the rain? How about a good fall and the electronic board cracks?

This is wacky crap for the range not for tough hunting conditions.

LOL, how well does your flinter work in the rain? The "back box" in your car gets the crap pounded out of it for thousands of miles, yr. after yr and keeps on ticking. LOL

Any fall that would destoy an electical part these days would put any other firearm action out of comission. Lets be fair. A sealed unit, buried in the stock is going to be pretty safe and reliable.

Plenty of room for flint and caps still, hell a matchlock if you like, but the guy that is using an inline BP rifle once a year, for an extended deer season, had better take notice of this.

The same problems they have using this systeme with a cartrige don't exist here. IMHO
 
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LOL, how well does your flinter work in the rain? The "back box" in your car gets the crap pounded out of it for thousands of miles, yr. after yr and keeps on ticking. LOL

Any fall that would destoy an electical part these days would put any other firearm action out of comission. Lets be fair. A sealed unit, buried in the stock is going to be pretty safe and reliable.

Plenty of room for flint and caps still, hell a matchlock if you like, but the guy that is using an inline BP rifle once a year, for an extended deer season, had better take notice of this.

The same problems they have using this systeme with a cartrige don't exist here. IMHO

That's your opinion! LOL I say prove it by some time and trial in the field! I remain sceptic until others like you have bought it and faltered with it. When all the improvements have been done and they are known as reliable, then maybe. Not before.

I have a 92 Honda Fourtrax ATV. All it ever needed is spark plugs, oil and breaks. Never broke and never left me stranded. Try that with the new electronic wiz bang fuel injected ATV. These new machines are a dealers and mechanics best friend. Puts their kids through college on your dime. Oh but they are starting to get more reliable as every year passes. And when reliability has been proven and shown over time, that's when I'll get one. In the meantime if it ain't broke...
 
This is yet another step away from what the whole idea of muzzle loading is all about. (And one thats been floated a couple times before too I believe.) I go with the previous post - only if its powered by a Leyden jar battery!

Honestly I'm a bit annoyed with the whole modern muzzle loading thing. They are entirely a response to poorly worded and thought out "primitive" hunting season regulations.

They totally go against what the intentions of these regulations were. These in-lines with modern propellants, variable scopes and sabotted pistol bullets are in no way primitive.

There might be a place for them as technical exercises but thats about all. Some states define the primitive weapons such that bows can't have wheels and muzzle loaders are flintlocks with nonadjustable sights.

If the hunting regulations in Canada went with this sort of thing how long would all these new in-lines be around? What possible reason would there be to have one? Ballistics are similar enough to many cartridge guns that there wouldn't be much place for them.

Thats my soapbox rant. I'm sure that the firestorm will follow....
 
LOL, how well does your flinter work in the rain? here.

Apart from agreeing with vagrantviking, I would also point out that my flinter works finestkind in the rain. Takes a little extra care but not a lot. In some ways it is preferrable to a caplock because if you tip your head forward and fill your cap tin with rainwater, that's it for the day. At least you can dry your pan off and continue shooting

cheers mooncoon
 
That's your opinion! LOL I say prove it by some time and trial in the field! I remain sceptic until others like you have bought it and faltered with it. When all the improvements have been done and they are known as reliable, then maybe. Not before.

I have a 92 Honda Fourtrax ATV. All it ever needed is spark plugs, oil and breaks. Never broke and never left me stranded. Try that with the new electronic wiz bang fuel injected ATV. These new machines are a dealers and mechanics best friend. Puts their kids through college on your dime. Oh but they are starting to get more reliable as every year passes. And when reliability has been proven and shown over time, that's when I'll get one. In the meantime if it ain't broke...

Gee, I can recall guys saying they would never trust those damn point systems on their bikes. I'll stick with my magnito thanks very much. Points were invented by mechanics for mechanics blada, blada. LOL
Point is the system exists and for guys that could care less about tradition and are only concerned with sneaking by the intent of the hunting rules, they are going to use it.IMHO
 
This is yet another step away from what the whole idea of muzzle loading is all about. (And one thats been floated a couple times before too I believe.) I go with the previous post - only if its powered by a Leyden jar battery!

Honestly I'm a bit annoyed with the whole modern muzzle loading thing. They are entirely a response to poorly worded and thought out "primitive" hunting season regulations.

They totally go against what the intentions of these regulations were. These in-lines with modern propellants, variable scopes and sabotted pistol bullets are in no way primitive.

There might be a place for them as technical exercises but thats about all. Some states define the primitive weapons such that bows can't have wheels and muzzle loaders are flintlocks with nonadjustable sights.

If the hunting regulations in Canada went with this sort of thing how long would all these new in-lines be around? What possible reason would there be to have one? Ballistics are similar enough to many cartridge guns that there wouldn't be much place for them.

Thats my soapbox rant. I'm sure that the firestorm will follow....

+1 could not agree with you more.
 
Apart from agreeing with vagrantviking, I would also point out that my flinter works finestkind in the rain. Takes a little extra care but not a lot. In some ways it is preferrable to a caplock because if you tip your head forward and fill your cap tin with rainwater, that's it for the day. At least you can dry your pan off and continue shooting

cheers mooncoon

Yes, but you do have to "take a little extra care" The electonic system takes the weather out of the equation all together.
I am not advocating this system. I am simply pointing out that the hunters that are treading a thin line as vagrantviking pointed out, are going to be attracted to this system. Period. That is my point. IMHO
 
What is the point of hunting in Muzzie season. Isn't the smell and dirt what it is all about? It seems to take away from the old style of hunting of course so did the inline system.
 
Probably need a battery disconnect before loading. Heck, If I'm going to get a gadget that looks like a modern rifle, I might as well get a modern rifle!


I agree, whats the point???

Get a front stuffer or get a centerfire, this idea is like the useless coupling of the 2

Not as easy/ fool proof as the centerfire,

Not as skillful and requireing of introspective thought as the side lock

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In my opinion we should Keep the black powder season TRADITIONAL.

Rob


P.s- as a useless side note the main actors on Sean beans SHARPE "awesome show" had their rifles and muskets ignited this way I believe
 
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Gee, I can recall guys saying they would never trust those damn point systems on their bikes. I'll stick with my magnito thanks very much. Points were invented by mechanics for mechanics blada, blada. LOL
Point is the system exists and for guys that could care less about tradition and are only concerned with sneaking by the intent of the hunting rules, they are going to use it.IMHO

Not talking points vs magneto. Talking fuel injection vs. carb. It's perfected in cars, but leaves much to be desired in ATV's and outboards. I know. I know. It's only a question of time and it will be perfected and very reliable...but not now.
 
This version has been in production for 3 years now,,, and still being built. I've shot them at the Shot show, there is a bit of weird hang time after you squeeze the trigger, similar to shooting a flinter.
 
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