O/U issue
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Falconflyer
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The Orion is a Beretta 686 clone made by Turkish gun maker ATA, it's a copy of a good design produced by a company who's products range from poor quality to acceptable quality but in my opinion not good quality. ATA also makes the Sa-08 for Weatherby and I've seen Sa-08's that were quite reliable but I've also seen one with a broken bolt lock after a couple of thousand rounds so there again, quality is a bit hit and miss.
It's been a while since I inspected an Orion but the ones that I have handled were very sticky and gritty feeling to open and close, this is an indication of poorly finished internal parts. On one of them the top lever wouldn't return to center when the action was closed and had to be pushed closed using the thumb with some force.
If you can't push that pin into the breech face without pushing the top lever to the right slightly then you may have found the reason why the barrel face is getting peened. That said, it shouldn't be easy to push in and you will need to use a small tool instead of your finger to push it in completely but you should be able to push it in without putting pressure on the top lever. I don't recommend letting the top lever slam back to center but rather ease it down with your thumb.
Without knowing the round count of your gun I think it's possible that the action just needs more use to smoothen things out or have a gun smith take it apart to smoothen the top lever latch.
It should be dome shaped, perhaps slightly flat on the tip. The tip should meet the center of the rim of the barrel face - yours doesnt seem to? How about a better pic? I dont own a Orion, but I do own several Beretta 686's. With the action open, I need to use a chopstick to move the pin (without touching the top lever) with about 10 lbs force.
No time like the present to start learnin.
Record it with your phone or head over to the inter webs and check out this sight called ewe toob.
https://weatherby.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Orion_Manual_2015.pdf
Dam, I miss Stevespages for these type of situations.
If you decide to remove the but stock be very , very , very careful ( and no we are not elmer fudd hunting rabbits) but, if you go this route the draw bolt is a delicate operation to remove because if you slip to can and likely will break the butt stock.
And this will be a very bad day.
Seriously, ewe toob and leave the coffee alone when you try this .
Rob
Falconflyer
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
In what way is removing the draw bolt a delicate operation?
Hmm I have the 20g version and nothing seems out of sorts on mine after inspection. I did have the 28g S 08 which had an issue with the firing pin just excluding a bit so it touched the primer. Never went off but always left a mark ,sent back to Weatherby and fixed in less than a year .I agree the action is not quite the same as a Beretta (I've had a few) but neither is the cost. One thing when I phoned them I got a real person who listened to my concerns not a push 1 for whomever.
Blastattack
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No suggestions. If the lever is at the center, disassembled and assembled, then your gun may be worn out or defective. Being off center is good, to some degree, and your degree is perfectly fine.
When you push the button with the action open, it allows the locking lugs to bottom out. When you close the gun normally, the lockings lug seat in the action recess, thus limiting the return of the lever to (hopefully) right of center. As the gun wears, the lever will migrate clockwise. If allowed to wear to the point that the lugs bottom out, a major repair is needed. Best to keep the locking lug recess, and other critical areas well lubricated.
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Falconflyer
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
That just means that your locking block has lots of life left in it. When the lever goes to the same position assembled as it does dissembled then it’s time for a rebuild.
