Stevens , Ideal Side Plate in 25-20ss

[skwerl]

One of the oldest guns I rent and 1 of only 2 non-rimfire rifles ( 22-15-60 & 25-20ss)
both of which are Stevens own cartridges and both obsolete centre fire calibres .

Stevens #107 , Serial # 76 (DOM 1888 - 90) 24'' Oct. to Rnd barrel in 25-20ss (single shot)
Beach #5 combination frnt , Open rear sight , Vernier tang sight , #2 Swiss butt plate

....skwerl









Heavy barrel , 20 mm ( .75'' ) muzzel.

 

[crooked barrel jed]

Very nice.
Is the Ideal different from a mod.44 or mod.44 1/2?
I really like these old single shots, but not super clear on models and marketing names

 

[NorthCoastBigBore]

Wow that's an INCREDIBLE find Skwerl. And a beautiful example.

 

[skwerl]

Xlnt question man , Actually none of them have
''Ideal'' marked on them only in catalogues & books.

Model 44 is a ''Tipping or Pivoting'' block , came out in 1894
and was used in various models till 1947 .



Model 441/2 is a ''Falling or Sliding'' block , came out in 1903 and was used in
various models till 1916 .



Both actions were chambered in all calibres from .22 SHORT to . 44-40 & .38-55 .

The Model 44 1/2 is a stronger action and was developed to handle
higher pressures of ''Smokeless'' powder .

They have essentially no interchangeable internal parts.

Hope this helps .

....skwerl

 

[crooked barrel jed]

Interesting that the Mod 44 was manufactured longer than the Mod 44 1/2, I had assumed the 44 1/2 was the improved replacement design. I have owned a 1915 Favorite in the past, is the Mod 44 essentially a beefier Favorite?
Sorry for the late response, I have been on the road

 

[skwerl]

Hey jed
Well WW 1 changed the complexion of every thing in the world , firearms included
the single shot lever surrendered the bolt action.

Also the ''German'' Schuetzen style was less popular .

Winchester 1885 was discontinued in 1920 , Remington rolling block in 1913 and
the Stevens factory was commandeered for the war effort in 1915.

The Model 44 was continued in rimfire and small centre fire calibres . (25-20 , 32-20)

Short history............ skwerl

 

[crooked barrel jed]

Thanks
Is there a recommended book on the Stevens rifles?

 

[skwerl]

Certainly a couple (3)..... Tom's , Franks & mine.

Franks is a little difficult to source .

.........skwerl

 

[crooked barrel jed]

Thanks, I’ll search around. I did some googling after I posted my query, and found a book on Amazon (not any of these 3) for the princely sum of $1400 and change. No that's not a typo! Lol

 

[skwerl]

Thanks, I’ll search around. I did some googling after I posted my query, and found a book on Amazon (not any of these 3) for the princely sum of $1400 and change. No that's not a typo! Lol

Hey jed , pray-tell which book title is $1400 ?

 

[crooked barrel jed]

Savage & Stevens Arms: Collectors History 1863-2003
Amazon.ca

 

[pmatuk]

Nice rifles !
25-20SS brass is difficult to find ,but did find a tutorial on ASSRA how to make them from 223 cases
made up some and they do work well but less case capacity