I found the same thimg, lots of recoil but good patterns.I shoot a lot of Challenger (my last order was 20 cases). Their 12ga and 20ga standard target loads are HOT. They are fast, and they hit hard (both directions). If you have any recoil issues these may not be the best choice. If you want to obliterate targets however........
The 28ga skeet loads are fantastic. They also hit real hard, but obviously recoil is not an issue here. I hate shooting .410, but when I do Challenger is my choice.
When you can get them, Challanger 28 and .410 skeet loads are the cheapest that can be found. Even at these prices, I've had no issues quality wise, and have no doubts when using them against world class competition.
Brad.
Anybody heard of Clever Mirage from Italy? I like them.![]()
I use an overshot wad when Ii reload the cheddite hulls, it seems to make a difference even if the crimp is not a pserfect as it should be.Challenger ammo is definitely hotter than average. Even the claimed velocity on the boxes should be considered a minimum.
But oddly it's not as heavily recoiling as some other ammo on the market. I have a couple of flats of Challenger 1 ounce 7.5 @ 1,350 fps. When compared to the Winchester Super Target and Super Sporting the Challenger is noticeably softer shooting.
The 28 gauge Sporting at 1,330 fps does give a little more punch to the shoulder than their skeet loads but it definitely reaches out there. It's what I use for the 50 yard plus targets and it will get the job done.
Challenger hulls are reloadable. They are Cheddite hulls and recipies for them are available on several of the powder company sites. The 12 gauge load very nicely but the 28 gauge are quite long and usually don't crimp as nicely as Winchester AAHS hulls.
I just wish Challenger shells were more available.![]()