first hunting rifle?

Thanks, it doesn't say anything about specific calibers unless I'm missing something, but I will dig around just to make sure

That was my takeaway as well. But definitely keep digging to be sure.

Also handy to get a zoning map of any private land you get permission to shoot on, as by-laws can change depending on zoning.

iHunter App with property line boundaries is a great resource to use as well to know where you are on the ground relative to property lines.
 
That was my takeaway as well. But definitely keep digging to be sure.

Also handy to get a zoning map of any private land you get permission to shoot on, as by-laws can change depending on zoning.

iHunter App with property line boundaries is a great resource to use as well to know where you are on the ground relative to property lines.
That is super useful to know, I don't know anyone with hunting experience, so it's all going to come from here and the hunter safety course
 
That is super useful to know, I don't know anyone with hunting experience, so it's all going to come from here and the hunter safety course

I’m a new hunter and firearms owner as well - thankfully I have two uncles who are lifetime hunters that can pass on their wisdom. But only a handful of people in my social group of my generation share my interest in firearms and hunting.

Best thing I’ve done is join a shooting club where I’ve met some fantastic people with tons of experience that have all been incredibly kind and patient in helping me learn more.

Shout out to Toronto International Rifle and Pistol club in Innisfil - waitlist was 6-months but totally worth it.
 
im looking for a rifle to hunt with, probably not going for anything bigger than deer.

what rifles and calibers should i be looking for that are cheap to shoot so i can get a lot of range time in for cheap.

i dont mind spending the extra money on something more robust that i can put 1000's of rounds through

Consider a Tikka, Howa, Weatherby Vangaurd (made by Howa), Savage 110, or Ruger American G2. To make your final decision, go in the store and shoulder them all and cycle the actions. You will connect with one - all are robust and you likely will not shoot out a barrel and if you do shoot that much you will be likely getting another gun. These platforms all have lotsa aftermarket stocks and it is nice to keep your options open if you want to upgrade in the future.

As for caliber... I say go 6.5 cm for low recoil and easy availability. Not that .308 is hard to handle, but if you are going to target shoot 1000s of rounds you might as well go for more comfort and make it easier to stay on target for the second shot. But, either is going to be fine.

Also... may want to consider reloading right away if you want to shoot 1000s.right off the bat. No reason not to. Reloading takes reading and learning - a buddy helps as well, but a new shooters can do it. I started shooting 7 years ago and have never bought factory centrefire ammo.

If you do go for a training rifle, I would go with a .22. The main reason for this is a .22 will teach you to read wind and play with DOPE On a 200m range. It is a good practice round because it is inefficient and really, really cheap compared to centrefire.
 
im looking for a rifle to hunt with, probably not going for anything bigger than deer.

what rifles and calibers should i be looking for that are cheap to shoot so i can get a lot of range time in for cheap.

i dont mind spending the extra money on something more robust that i can put 1000's of rounds through
I always recomend 308, light, easy , cheap and abundant. for starting out it will handle all the ranges you should eb shooting at. as you get experience and learn more you will know what to move to and why. 30-06 is also a good choice. will give you more room to grow into.

my general advice for new shooters is get something like a savage axis or ruger american and spend the extra money on ammo to learn to shoot. likewise you don't need to spend thousands on your first scope. another good option is to find an older Husqvarna or parker hale. you will get better quality for your dollar. both of these optiosn will have a better recovery when you sell to upgrade, assuming you need to upgrade (my uncle still uses the same 303 he had when i was born, and deer keep falling down when he shoots them)

the nice side effect of starting with an older or more budget rifle, is that when you pick up that Sako with a Vx5 you really appreciate where that money went.
 
Consider a nice used Husqvarna from Intersurplus or Great North Guns. Some of them come with scopes and a lot of them are in amazing shape. For the same money as a new Axis, you have high quality Swedish steel and a controlled feed action. Bit more character than a Plastic Fantastic as well. My opinion.
 
It used to be that my recommendation would be a used Ruger 77, Winchester Model 70 or similar -- or possibly a new Tikka. The problem is, what used to be common, quality guns that could be had fairly inexpensively have started to become old classics commanding premium prices -- or else new versions of the same coming with eye watering price tags from the factory. These days, for a guy just starting out, I'd look quite seriously at something like a Ruger American. They tend to be quite accurate, have a nearly indestructible stock, and come with a shockingly good trigger.

Get one in .308 Win and you can shoot everything up to and including moose, and ammo is easy to find. But cheap to shoot? Is anything cheap to shoot anymore?!? :)

If I was in your boat, I would actually consider getting two of those rifles -- one in .308 Win and the other in .223 Rem. Put identical scopes on them, and shoot both -- but try to actually burn out the barrel on the .223 by shooting as much as you afford from every field position you can imagine out to around 300 - 400 yards. Trajectories will be similar -- close enough that practice with one counts as practice with both. And .223 ammo will indeed be a whole lot cheaper to shoot. The two rifle thing may seem costly, but the ammo savings by shooting a lot of the smaller round will quickly pay you back. And all that practice will pay off in spades when you're out hunting.
Good advice; if you live in southern Ontario and want a good rifle for deer and for varmints, 243 would be a good choice. .308 for inexpensive bulk ammo, but some bulk ammo is not so great in some rifles; it is a bit heavy for varmints. .223 is a bit light IMO, same goes for bulk .223, bulk ammo ranges from OK do down-right s*itty.
 
Another vote for .308Win here for the points below…

- Nothing can really touch it in terms of bbl life (3-5/6000 rnds).

- Ammo is avail generally everywhere, even in the middle of nowhere at some backwoods Country Store

- 150-180gr Ammo covers Deer, Bears (Blackies) and Moose effectively.

- Long brass life and a plethora of projectiles avail should you want to venture into reloading at some point.

- .308Win doesn’t care if it’s a. 20, 22, 24, 26” or a 1:10 Vs 1:12 twist rate Barrel either. Some Cals have a sweet spot in terms of length and twist options.

- Wanna upgrade? it’s easy to turn your .308 setup into a Bench/Precision setup with a barrel swap and or a stock/chassis upgrade and still have fun or be competitive with .308Win. Depending on platform chosen of course.

If I wasn’t going .308, something around 7-08, .270 or 30-06 would fill your needs for the Big Three quite well.

I’m fond of Rem 700’s, but have used Tikkas and Weatherby Vanguard 2s and wouldn't hesitate to purchase the latter two again.
 
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