Levtac 92 vs. Canuck Wrangler Blackout in .44mag

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Since it seems the tacticool levers have ended up here, this is where I'm asking.

Is there any great advantage one way or the other between these two? I like the stock and lever loop on the Canuck better and it has an 8 round mag compared to 7 for the Levtac. Any other differences? Anyone have both to compare?

The wrangler costs $150 more, which more than covers the cost to put a better stock on the Levtac, so that seems pretty much a wash.


Thanks,
Mark
 
Does warranty or parts support exist for either option?

Levtac lever guns are made in Brazil. Rossi is made in Brazil. I don't hear good things about parts and service for Rossi...
 
Not sure if it helps, but I’ve had great luck with Chiappa leverguns. Remember, the Chiappa that produced the ratty little .22 M1 isn’t the same company that produces their line of leverguns. They make a fantastic model 92 copy.
 
Rossi (and Citadel Levtac as rebranded Rossi) parts are more available than Turkish parts in general, though I can't comment on this supposedly Turkish lever model. Rossi has tons of models on US and Canada market too. One single Turkish lever from unknown manufacturer might be the bad choice.

Also Citadel Levtac in 44Mag is 8+1, not 7+1

I owned and got rid of Chiappas, I trust modern Rossi better. Both have hit and miss QC, so one needs to watch for obvious lemons, but otherwise Rossi has better metal quality and not as sloppy as Chiappas. Chiappas only external finish is more refined.
 
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I've had rossi Ranch hand 44 mag and a rossi 92 in 454. Both fed smooth. I recently got a citadel 454 and feeding is trash. Not impressed. Take some dummy rounds and test if they let u. Maybe 44 mag is fine but that's my experience
 
I Dont Care About You said:
Levac guns ARE Rossi guns.

I have a Rossi R92 and it has been VERY reliable. I've run 700-800 rounds through it and cleaned the thing once.
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Do you have a source for that? I'm not doubting you, considering they are made in Brazil I assumed the same thing (and have been told as much by others) but I love to see hard evidence of claims like this where possible.
 
I was not that familiar with the Wrangler Blackout, so I watched a couple videos, one from O'Dell.... it doesn't look to bad and the 3 year warranty should get you down the road a fair ways... if it runs good for 3 years, other then maybe some springs, extractor, firing pin, there is probably not too much that can go wrong. If O'Dell has or will sell you some small spare parts after 3 years you should be good to go.

If you like the tactical look it seems to have that in spades.
 
Oh, BTW, there's also Heritage brand and as I understand it's also re-branded Rossi.
Looking at supposedly Turkish Wranglers, I'm kinda curious on why Turkish manufacturer copied Rossi's safety one-to-one... What if Wranglers are not Turkish at all?
 
No need to constantly re-invent the wheel, just looking at the Wrangler tells me that it's a unique design, I have no reason not to believe it's made in Turkey as claimed.
 
Horilka said:
There's no reason to copy something that works awfully.
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I can think of a few reasons not to..... :)
Generally the 1892 is a solid design though.... the safety wing can be deleted on the Rossi's and the gun run with the traditional half ####.

I don't know if that applies to the Turkish gun.
 
Suther said:
Do you have a source for that? I'm not doubting you, considering they are made in Brazil I assumed the same thing (and have been told as much by others) but I love to see hard evidence of claims like this where possible.
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I have a Levtac in 44 mag and on the firearm it is stamped "CBC Brazil"
 
mmcintyre1220 said:
I asked O'Dell multiple different times and ways on their Facebook page what parts availability is like post warranty..... They simply will not answer the question. I am willing to be there is zero parts or service post warranty.
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That's probably a safe bet if they won't even talk about it....not the first gun sold in Canada with limited to no parts availability.

In 3 years you could probably get the neighbours kid or your house robot to 3d print any parts you might need.... :)
 
Can-down said:
That's probably a safe bet if they won't even talk about it....not the first gun sold in Canada with limited to no parts availability.

In 3 years you could probably get the neighbours kid or your house robot to 3d print any parts you might need.... :)
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That's why I stay clear from anything from turkey. I bought a Canik TP9sfx. Optic plates from the factory used helicoils instead of being properly threaded from the start. The plate I needed was mangled and I could not get a screw in. Called Century arms for warranty support and was told they would be sending one out to me. A month later I broke the firing pin. Called back and was told they were waiting on the optic plates and would also send out a firing pin.

1 year and multiple phone calls and emails, still no parts. Paid a shop to fix the base plate and got a firing pin from the US. Sold that Turkish pos and told myself I would never buy one again. They make some cool stuff but it's usually junk with no parts availability.

Metal 3d printers are getting pretty advanced. I follow a few guys in the US who are legally printing frames, suppressors ect. It's pretty crazy what technology is bringing to the table.
 
Mogulrider said:
I have the Canuck walnut 44mag Traditions version. It blows my Rossis away in terms of quality out of the box.
Not even close
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Just curious but how many Rossi's do you have?

The older ones were hit and miss a bit like Norinco and were good for people that didn't mind smoothing out the rough edges if needed.

I have a few that are pretty darn nice for what I paid for them... they are the older ones with no safety, nice bluing and very smooth out of the box. They are so nice that I struggle to imagine another inexpensive lever action being any better let alone being so much better that it's not even close.

I have one rossi that came with a barrel that was poorly indexed and it suffers from the stiff ejector spring that certain generations of Rossi's had and is no where near as nice, not even close to the nicer ones where the only improvements I can think of would be nicer walnut instead of what ever wood came out of Brazil and possibly changing the iron sights out for something with a finer bead and nicer buckhorn or peep.

With modern manufacturing processes there is no practical reason a newer gun today can't be better then the ones from the past and at a reduced cost with better quality control.

Rossi seemed to get a step up in quality control a few years back probably due to a new manufacturing facility with modern tooling and machines.

The price also went up, but atlest it came with better quallity which is not the case for most things today that are being inflated by govt debt and lack of productivity.
 
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mmattockx said:
Since it seems the tacticool levers have ended up here, this is where I'm asking.

Is there any great advantage one way or the other between these two? I like the stock and lever loop on the Canuck better and it has an 8 round mag compared to 7 for the Levtac. Any other differences? Anyone have both to compare?

The wrangler costs $150 more, which more than covers the cost to put a better stock on the Levtac, so that seems pretty much a wash.


Thanks,
Mark
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I looked at both of them but decided to get the Henry Steel Boy in 357 magnum.
 
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