wolf or yote identification needed
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So you haven’t weighed any of them? Or you have?
The one in this pic from the other day was pretty heavy too.
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Ive never weighed a coyote that weighs 50_70 pounds. NOW pay attention!! These ARE NOT COYOTES. Im not sure whats so hard to understand. The biggest Ive weighed was 69pounds 10 ounces on a digital scale. Looks like you need more trigger time!! I personally like the front quarter,just sayin.
Uhuh. Got any more pics of the ‘not coyotes’?
Would love to see a pic of a 69 pound not coyote.
It wouldn’t make a difference! I already showed a pic of a hybrid that weighed 63 lbs 5 ounces. You don’t believe and like I said before, I don’t give a shxt and have nothing to prove. Lots of people in this area hunt and kill hybrids well over 50 pounds. Cross between domestic dogs or grey wolves? I have no idea and neither does the ministry! Don’t care either. I like how you don’t live anywhere remotely close to where I’ve lived my entire life and hunted for a living for almost two decades,but you know what inhabits this part of the country. I’m done responding to a Legend in their own mind! Welcome to ignore and work on the piss poor marksmanship!! It’s gonna be a steep uphill climb.
Oh! My bad, I must’ve missed the pic of the 63 lb hybrid. Did you take it down?
john-brennan
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I like all those mallards in the back ground they look delicious
We have a lot of yotes running the shoreline. Usually scrawny, mangy and 2/3rds the size of this canine. I've only seen one wolf in the wild and it was "leggier" than this animal.
Embarrassed to ask but am I seeing a wolf?
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canadian hunter312
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It’s easy to tell by the pic of that coyote in the bed of his truck that it’s just a standard 45-50lb eastern coyote.
99% of people would take pics of a 69lb coyote/hybrid and most would have pictures of the animal on the scale. Let me guess, he didn’t have a camera around that day?
Look at how he pictured himself with that coyote for a selfie. Clearly the guy is trying too hard to convince people he has a secret breed of wolf hybrids in his area
Had to dig around to find this photo from 7-8 years ago. Shot it on my farm and we were guessing 60plus pounds. A friend shot one nearby on his farm, Dunnville, Ontario and he claimed his livestock scale read 74 lbs. His coyote made my coyote look small by comparison, and mine made some of the coyotes we shot out west look tiny. We’ve all got into discussions about what these are, brush wolves, hybrids, coydogs etc etc …. but to me the are just extremely well fed Southern Ontario coyotes. A taxidermist friend shows me pelts of wolves that he had weighed prior to skinning and 120-180lb dogs are huge by comparison.
I think the reason southern ontario has big coyotes is because of mild weather and low effort easily available good food. Dumps behind poultry farms, dead cows and calves at dairy operations, sheep, and feed lots, numerous pig farms etc etc…. Not everyone buried or incinerates. My bait pile has contained road killed deer and a friend dumps 200lbs of butcher shop expired deli sausages on his bait bile every week. To my knowledge no coyotes in this area have membership cards for the YMCA.
…Some of our yotes are sooo fat they have made guest appearances on the Oprah Winfrey television show!! lol
So to borrow a line from a Clint Eastwood movie when asked ….when the shooting starts how do we know who the good guy or bad guys are?? And Clint says “shoot them all and let God sort them out”…
Thats our policy on yotes, debate over.
I think the reason southern ontario has big coyotes is because of mild weather and low effort easily available good food. Dumps behind poultry farms, dead cows and calves at dairy operations, sheep, and feed lots, numerous pig farms etc etc…. Not everyone buried or incinerates. My bait pile has contained road killed deer and a friend dumps 200lbs of butcher shop expired deli sausages on his bait bile every week. To my knowledge no coyotes in this area have membership cards for the YMCA.
…Some of our yotes are sooo fat they have made guest appearances on the Oprah Winfrey television show!! lol
So to borrow a line from a Clint Eastwood movie when asked ….when the shooting starts how do we know who the good guy or bad guys are?? And Clint says “shoot them all and let God sort them out”…
Thats our policy on yotes, debate over.
I have shot quite a few yotes in the 50-60lb range so it's not that not uncommon, I have not got one 70lbs. Guys I know who trap wolves, regularly get 170+lb wolves. A completely different realm when compared to a extremely large coyote. And as the comments have stated, wolves have much longer legs. And their paws are absolutely massive. Wolf paw prints are almost as big as my hand, when I place my hand inside their print. And I by no means have a small hand.
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Maybe,but,I think that might be someone's dog. I'd take a hard pass. Believe me,there's no end to the shyte storm if you make a mistake. 99% of all the coyotes we've taken since I started hunting them 60 years ago around Peterborough County were all hybrids that we always called "brush wolves" averaging about 35 lbs with beautiful pelts when,back in the day,they were worth some really decent coin. Over the last few years hunting southern townships of Peterborough and northern Durham Region, the animals were smaller averaging 25 lbs with mangy garbage pelts. Hunting them became more about varmint control than pelts.
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For the last 35 or so years I have hunted with the same small handful of guys. For the last 20 or so we have tended to go steeper and deeper. This has predominantly been backpack work, but some horse trips as well.
Get a few guys gathered around a backpack full of meat with a head perched on top and start guessing weights, its pretty easy to come to the conclusion that you are a group of bad mofos, and that pack weighs at least 135lbs. Or, conversely, that pack horse pannier CAN’T be more than 50 lbs, and that top pack is only 40 pounds, no problem.
Once we started carrying a scale in the trucks, or tucked in a pack box, it went from “that pack has to be at LEAST ###xlbs” to “It sure felt heavy by the time we crawled outta there. Lets hang it from the scale and see.”
The one constant that comes from weighing stuff that I’ve seen is that very few people have the ability to accurately judge weight (ESPECIALLY dead weight), and that people as a whole are very susceptible to pushing that number in the direction they want it to be while trying to guess said weight.
AND, people will argue a scale, because they “know” it weighed more than it had to. It felt SO much heavier than that….
Get a few guys gathered around a backpack full of meat with a head perched on top and start guessing weights, its pretty easy to come to the conclusion that you are a group of bad mofos, and that pack weighs at least 135lbs. Or, conversely, that pack horse pannier CAN’T be more than 50 lbs, and that top pack is only 40 pounds, no problem.
Once we started carrying a scale in the trucks, or tucked in a pack box, it went from “that pack has to be at LEAST ###xlbs” to “It sure felt heavy by the time we crawled outta there. Lets hang it from the scale and see.”
The one constant that comes from weighing stuff that I’ve seen is that very few people have the ability to accurately judge weight (ESPECIALLY dead weight), and that people as a whole are very susceptible to pushing that number in the direction they want it to be while trying to guess said weight.
AND, people will argue a scale, because they “know” it weighed more than it had to. It felt SO much heavier than that….
IronNoggin
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I weigh everything with a hanging scale, I used to stack average of 3000 bags/day for 12 years that ranged from 10lbs to 110lbs. But mostly 88lbs. Pretty good at judging weights in that range. And a guy can easily tell half a pound difference when stacking and have a scale sitting right there to weigh and verify when they feel a bit off.
But I fully agree that it is very easy to be way off on weight. I'm still pretty close, threw a piece of 1" plate steel on the scale yesterday I had to drill some large holes in and make a welding jig out of, I guessed 85lbs, and it was 90lbs.
But I fully agree that it is very easy to be way off on weight. I'm still pretty close, threw a piece of 1" plate steel on the scale yesterday I had to drill some large holes in and make a welding jig out of, I guessed 85lbs, and it was 90lbs.
Sometimes scales aren’t that accurate… my bathroom scale is way out !! I KNOW what I weigh but my scale adds 70lbs and my bathroom mirror agrees !! lol
On a slightly more serious note we use to play a little gag when coyote hunting with a newbie in the group. Eventually a coyote would be recovered and someone would discretely place a dog caller around it’s neck. Then we would ‘play it up’ for about 5 minutes….it left a lasting impression on the newbie and was a lesson well learned to be 500 percent positive before squeezing a trigger. I was that new guy once to the group but not a newbie to shooting yotes. Still…it got my attention even though i knew I didn't screw up. In southern Ontario you watch the animal and the background carefully before sending it.
On a slightly more serious note we use to play a little gag when coyote hunting with a newbie in the group. Eventually a coyote would be recovered and someone would discretely place a dog caller around it’s neck. Then we would ‘play it up’ for about 5 minutes….it left a lasting impression on the newbie and was a lesson well learned to be 500 percent positive before squeezing a trigger. I was that new guy once to the group but not a newbie to shooting yotes. Still…it got my attention even though i knew I didn't screw up. In southern Ontario you watch the animal and the background carefully before sending it.
Fully agree. Scales I'm using are calibrated for use in trade by a scale company, every six months.
