Looking for a first over under
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Go with a used known name brand if possible
If you do decide to get a Turk made one make sure there is warranty support for it. Some of the Huglu shotguns that Tenda sells for example are imported by them and there is no warranty support for them
If you get one that was imported by O dell however they have full warranty and support
Your best bet like others have said is to get a used browning or beretta or even a Remington, at least those ones can be repaired if needed
If you do decide to get a Turk made one make sure there is warranty support for it. Some of the Huglu shotguns that Tenda sells for example are imported by them and there is no warranty support for them
If you get one that was imported by O dell however they have full warranty and support
Your best bet like others have said is to get a used browning or beretta or even a Remington, at least those ones can be repaired if needed
Out of respect to yourself and Mr. Browning acquire a new or used Citori. Been around for darn near 100 years and will serve you into the future for another century.
….There is no coincidence that a sizeable number of guys on here are GENTLY hinting to get a Citori for a pile of good reasons including pride of ownership of a high QUALITY product.
….There is no coincidence that a sizeable number of guys on here are GENTLY hinting to get a Citori for a pile of good reasons including pride of ownership of a high QUALITY product.
Do you any friends who shoot shotguns?
If you do , try to arrange to try as many different guns as you can because even the cheaper Turkish guns tend to fit differently at times.
Fit is very important, the gun needs to come up and point naturally.
Buying any gun by price point alone is not a good idea unless one knows what they are looking at .
QA/QC is all over the map when it comes to the cheaper Turks it seems.
Personally speaking, I would be looking at the used market after figuring out the brand you want , then look at the individual gun " buy the gun, not then brand " as the old saying goes.
A used Citori is not worth buying if a used Berreta ,Rizzini or Merkel fit you better for example.
I have seen a few 686's for sale used at dealer for as low as $1,500.00 and less .
Fixed chokes are not as much of a show stopper as some would think, If you can find a gun with IC/MOD chokes you will be fine for both trap and skeet.
Cat
Ive got a huglu S12E and its an amazing shotgun, beautifully made, deep bluing, wood grain and fit is incredible
Lots of great insight here. Please keep it coming. I'm still on the fence...still eyeing the "higher end" turk stuff like Akkar and Huglu but I'm definitely looking around at some higher end stuff now too.
Not many stores local to me that I'm aware of carry many over unders so hard to get a good feel for a variety of them in the hand
Not many stores local to me that I'm aware of carry many over unders so hard to get a good feel for a variety of them in the hand
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I have several Federation Firearms O/U, they all have great metal/wood lines, all have choke tubes (except the .410) and they fit! Great curvature on the pistol grips, really decent wood, and are very reasonably priced. Green Peak are the distributors, have had nothing but great service!
I currently own an Akkar-Churchill 812 Oxycap, my first O/U. I have been shooting it for two seasons of Trap now and I’m happy with it. When I decided to give Trap a try a couple of years ago I didn’t want to drop 2K or more on a new “B” gun until I was sure I would like it. The 812 has performed flawlessly, I’m probably at around 5k in rounds thru it presently, has been loaned out at club shoots for women and youth and run hard all day on numerous occasions, I would not hesitate on recommending it at all.
I have been pretty fortunate to have lots of guys offer and let me shoot their Trap guns, from 1100’s to Citori’s, and even a Kreigoff once( shot a 23 with it). I am currently looking at stepping up to a higher quality O/U, but the Churchill has served me very well and I’ve got no complaints
I have been pretty fortunate to have lots of guys offer and let me shoot their Trap guns, from 1100’s to Citori’s, and even a Kreigoff once( shot a 23 with it). I am currently looking at stepping up to a higher quality O/U, but the Churchill has served me very well and I’ve got no complaints
I have had the opportunity to shoot a couple of Churchhills , one of them a fully adjustable rib and stock model.
I was impressed with the workmanship of them in general, especially when I took several apart at the local CT and compared them to other Turkish guns .
However, I recently sold an older Browning to a good friend who paid less for it than his new Churchill trap gun, and he was surprised at the quality difference between the two- there is NO comparison !
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You are absolutely correct, the Churchill, while a fantastic representation of a Turkish O/U simply cannot compare to any of the “ B” guns in terms of fit and finish. Not sure you would ever get 100k rounds thru a Churchill lol, but it has certainly served the exact purpose I bought it for so I’m happy
I am currently looking to upgrade, and though not everyone’s cup of tea, I find myself drawn to the Browning Cynergy line, just need to actually handle one and check the fit
It's just a beat up old Browning Citori that has skeet 1 and skeet 2 barrel on it. It goes bang every time for the last 15 years, I lost count how many rounds and people who put their hand on her, Lol.
I briefly owned a 28 gauge Cynergy, but I much prefer the Citori models. One of our members shoots a synthetic stocked Cynergy for skeet, but it has been back to Browning , because fired hulls didn't want to eject without a lot of effort. Fit wise, the Cynergy fits me like a 525/625 Citori.You are absolutely correct, the Churchill, while a fantastic representation of a Turkish O/U simply cannot compare to any of the “ B” guns in terms of fit and finish. Not sure you would ever get 100k rounds thru a Churchill lol, but it has certainly served the exact purpose I bought it for so I’m happy
I am currently looking to upgrade, and though not everyone’s cup of tea, I find myself drawn to the Browning Cynergy line, just need to actually handle one and check the fit
Thanks for the heads up on the Cynergy, I will keep my eyes open for a good used Citori, any particular model you prefer in a 12g Citori?
The old Citori Skeet and Trap models with fixed chokes , can be found for the best deals, but some have had many, many thousands of rounds, and the actions can be loose. The newer XS/XT models fit similarly, and have screw in chokes, but the prices are higher. The 525/625 field guns with longer barrels are quite heavy, and also work well for trap or skeet. The current CX series are good guns for the money, and have CXS/CXT variants, for trap or skeet. The trap models work well for skeet, but the high point of impact makes them a poor choice for skeet or hunting.
For some reason, the 725 fits different than the older models, I had to have an adjustable comb on my 725s, but the 525/625 and XS/XT were a perfect fit.
Find a Winchester 101.... Amazing gun and didn't run pocket book dry. I would love to find a 20g. Best shotgun I've ever purchased for the once every two years I go upland hunting. And once a year I shoot some trap with my buddies.
