Nasty little horror story on drill and taps.

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I like to share this experience with you because I think is of paramount importance to exchange as much information as possible to enjoy our passion for firearms and it´s uses in the safiest way.

A friend of mine who owns a Remington ADL 3006 always wanted to have open sights on it, since the rifle came without them for scope use only. Because he wanted to have the best possible job done on his rifle, he took it to a shop (now closed and its owner diffunct for about two years) for the open sights installation.
He used the sights on the rifle for some time and then swiched again to the scope option for better use at night. He left the drilled holes for the sights on the barrel exposed, since he lacked the small screw in pins to seal them.

The rifle worked fine for about 300 rounds, most of them military ball ammo, and some reloads on the middle of the road velocity spectrum. No high pressure, ever. A coulpe of weeks ago he spoted a hog form his truck, stopped the car, supported his right elbow on the trunck, he´s leftie, and happened to put his right thum over one of the drilled holes on the barrel, the one just infront of the chamber that supports the rear portion of the rear open sight. The first shot whent ok, but on the second one he felt his hand like being kiked by a mule. His thumb was blown into pieces on the air, pieces of flesh and bone all over the rilfe, the scope, himself, on the car, everywhere. A mess!

After some surgeries he recovered ok, but no more right thumb for him.

Upon examining the rifle he found the drills for the rear sight where done too deep into the barrel, but no so much to blow on the first shots. The thin wall suffered repeated fathigue form each firing until it finally blowed. The thin metal wall bellow the hole turned itself into a piece of sharpell, and the plasma gas coming from the hole at 65k psi did the rest of the damage.

The rifle itself its ok, with no sighns at all of a charge with too much pressure, the case extracted fine.

Please be sure to check the sight installlation job is done properly, check the depth of the holes, and always install the secrews back when using the rifle without the open sights.

Good shooting!

lrts.
 
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I like to share this experience with you because I think is of paramount importance to exchange as much information as possible to enjoy our passion for firearms and it´s uses in the safiest way.

A friend of mine who owns a Remington ADL 3006 always wanted to have open sights on it, since the rifle came without them for scope use only. Because he wanted to have the best possible job done on his rifle, he took it to a shop (now closed and its owner diffunct for about two years) for the open sights installation.
He used the sights on the rifle for some time and then swiched again to the scope option for better use at night. He left the drilled holes for the sights on the barrel exposed, since he lacked the small screw in pins to seal them.

The rifle worked fine for about 300 rounds, most of them military ball ammo, and some reloads on the middle of the road velocity spectrum. No high pressure, ever. A coulpe of weeks ago he spoted a hog form his truck, stopped the car, supported his right elbow on the trunck, he´s leftie, and happened to put his right thum over one of the drilled holes on the barrel, the one just infront of the chamber that supports the rear portion of the rear open sight. The first shot whent ok, but on the second one he felt his hand like being kiked by a mule. His thumb was blown into pieces on the air, pieces of flesh and bone all over the rilfe, the scope, himself, on the car, everywhere. A mess!

After some surgeries he recovered ok, but no more right thumb for him.

Upon examining the rifle he found the drills for the rear sight where done too deep into the barrel, but no so much to blow on the first shots. The thin wall suffered repeated fathigue form each firing until it finally blowed. The thin metal wall bellow the hole turned itself into a piece of sharpell, and the plasma gas coming from the hole at 65k psi did the rest of the damage.

The rifle itself its ok, with no sighns at all of a charge with too much pressure, the case extracted fine.

Please be sure to check the sight installlation job is done properly, check the depth of the holes, and always install the secrews back when using the rifle without the open sights.

Good shooting!

lrts.

I would say that for the gunsmith to drill the holes too deep, especially the rear sight where the barrel wall is quite thick, is incompetance. Your friend may have a liability case if he can locate the gunsmith and prove in court that he did the work.
 
Very scary! Those little plug screws from Brownell's are expensive but cheaper than the pain and permanence of losing a thumb.

:) Stuart
 
Very scary! Those little plug screws from Brownell's are expensive but cheaper than the pain and permanence of losing a thumb.

:) Stuart

That little plug screw might possibly have become a secondary projectile. It sure as hell would not have contained that kind of pressure.....nor would it have saved his thumb....me thinks...
 
That little plug screw might possibly have become a secondary projectile. It sure as hell would not have contained that kind of pressure.....nor would it have saved his thumb....me thinks...

Agreed, It might take a few, maybe even a few hundred but when it goes it is going out of there like a rocket!
 
How do you use your sights/scope with your thumb in the way? - dan
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+1. Who shoots with their hand wrapped around the barrel? Tried that with my Rem700, scoped w/plugged factory open sight holes. My thumb was in the way & it just felt WRONG.
 
+1 or 2. The holes would be on top. How could you see through your scope with a thumb/hand/sleeve/whatever in front of it?

Quite the story, so far.....

I have seen lots of guys shoot off a bench that way. With a higher magnification scope, and your hand low on the barrel, it does not interfere.....not visibly anyway....
 
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After some surgeries he recovered ok, but no more right thumb for him.

Upon examining the rifle he found the drills for the rear sight where done too deep into the barrel, but no so much to blow on the first shots. The thin wall suffered repeated fathigue form each firing until it finally blowed. The thin metal wall bellow the hole turned itself into a piece of sharpell, and the plasma gas coming from the hole at 65k psi did the rest of the damage.

The rifle itself its ok, with no sighns at all of a charge with too much pressure, the case extracted fine.

Please be sure to check the sight installlation job is done properly, check the depth of the holes, and always install the secrews back when using the rifle without the open sights.

Good shooting!

So when did rifles become star trek phasers am I missing something here? Plasma gas........may be hot air or BS.
 
Check out this link *ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_%28physics%29
Look under common plasmas, you'll find rocket exhaust.
The writer may well be correct in calling what came out of the hole plasma, although it does sound kinda weird.
 
So when did rifles become star trek phasers am I missing something here? Plasma gas........may be hot air or BS.

They were frikken' lasers...he was shooting at dolphins...
Not to minimize this person's pain, but I'm with several others, incompetence in the work done. Good luck with the lawsuit, but keep it in the U.S. We don't have that many lawyers up here...yet.
 
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