The fact is, CZ is owned by Colt Canada who is directly involved in the destruction of our legally acquired firearms! So CZ, S&B, and Spuhr is all on the cutting block! CZ can say they aren't involved, but it's guilt by association at minimum.
CZ 600 Trail, FDE - .223 Rem., 16" [6004-6415-KME2CCFX]
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The fact is, CZ is owned by Colt Canada who is directly involved in the destruction of our legally acquired firearms! So CZ, S&B, and Spuhr is all on the cutting block! CZ can say they aren't involved, but it's guilt by association at minimum.
Cdnhunter117
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Most here won't care they're the types of people to say well what difference is one person. Sheep surrounding us and anti's in our own community.
SustainingGopher
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Before calling us all sheep, does anyone actually have proof they are taking part in this or are we just assuming they’re guilty because that’s what everyone is saying.
OkayShooter
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Where is the proof they are destroying them?
They can buy them back for cheaper, then sell parts or guns to other countries.
Bet you don't buy Norinco, because f communist China. But support china in other means.
Did you watch Ian Runkles video on this subject? That was enough to convince me, along with Colt's refusal to respond.
"Buying" them back and reselling them is just as bad as destroying them when we are forced to do it on property we legally acquired.
I fail to see how owning chinese products relates to this matter.
If you think for one second that Colt wouldn't be closely monitoring this situation and receiving a large amount of pressure from the small companies under its umbrella if they are substantially impacted, you're crazy. Even from a moral standpoint, it would affect employees and day-to-day operations.
OkayShooter
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But are they involved in some how? Yes, but zero proof they're destroying them. Like people are spewing.
Hard to see it the same as destroying. You getting paid back for products. It is not going back the RCMP and being SEE.. photo op.
No name-calling here, I just strongly believe that we need to be united on matters like this. Personally, Ian Runkle's explanation is all the evidence I need when coupled with a lack of response from Colt itself. If it wasn't true, why would they be silent on the matter? Why would they lose business over something their competitor is doing?
I believe they're destroying them because that's what the government claims they're doing with them. Now maybe you're right, and that's not happening....The moral issue here is when the government is forcing people to turn in products that have been legally acquired. Not to mention paying pennies on the dollar--if you get anything at all due to their budget shortage. I cannot in good conscience support any company that willingly has a part in that.
Being united on speculation is dumb, it makes us worse than sheep.
Ridiculous. Some YouTuber kid lawyer says something and you're sold? That's all that you need as evidence? Who's a sheep...
They didn't respond because it clearly makes no impact to them, a non-issue. If it went against their bottom line or was a publicity issue, I'm sure we'd see something.
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Colt/CZ has a market cap of around $40 billion. They aren't going to get too fussed about a few cranky Canadian gun owners. Their business in Canada is supplying government agencies so staying on the good side of government would be in their business interests.
No more CZ for me. I don’t even take mine out anymore out of shame. Random strangers at the range will walk up to you and tell you all about it. Talk about being the ultimate sellout, throwing your customers to the wolves to make a buck.
Same goes for S&B ammo. I didn’t know a gun/ammo company could be more hated than norinco
Same goes for S&B ammo. I didn’t know a gun/ammo company could be more hated than norinco
Mossberg, Glock, Marlin, S&W etc shared sensitive customer and registration data with the NSSF without consent, which was used for political outreach. This 2024 revelation led to privacy concerns and backlash from gun owners fearing government surveillance.
Ruger - Company founder Bill Ruger Sr. publicly supported banning high-capacity magazines (over 15 rounds), writing to Congress that "no honest man needs more than 10 rounds in any gun."
Springfield Armory** In 2017, the company (along with Rock River Arms) lobbied in support of an Illinois bill that imposed stricter licensing on gun dealers, seen as a backdoor to more gun control.
Smith & Wesson: In 2000, Smith & Wesson agreed to a deal with the Clinton administration to implement safety features like child-safety locks and "smart gun" technology, as well as limit sales to certain dealers, in exchange for immunity from lawsuits. This was seen by many gun owners as capitulating to gun control advocates.
On another slightly unrelated but relevant note.
IWI exported to angola and sudan among other places. Owner linked to corruption scandals in arms deals.
Walther supplied the Nazis
Not exactly apples to apples but my point should be obvious.
Ruger - Company founder Bill Ruger Sr. publicly supported banning high-capacity magazines (over 15 rounds), writing to Congress that "no honest man needs more than 10 rounds in any gun."
Springfield Armory** In 2017, the company (along with Rock River Arms) lobbied in support of an Illinois bill that imposed stricter licensing on gun dealers, seen as a backdoor to more gun control.
Smith & Wesson: In 2000, Smith & Wesson agreed to a deal with the Clinton administration to implement safety features like child-safety locks and "smart gun" technology, as well as limit sales to certain dealers, in exchange for immunity from lawsuits. This was seen by many gun owners as capitulating to gun control advocates.
On another slightly unrelated but relevant note.
IWI exported to angola and sudan among other places. Owner linked to corruption scandals in arms deals.
Walther supplied the Nazis
Not exactly apples to apples but my point should be obvious.
What does it matter what they're doing with them? They're support the removal of rights and property from law abiding citizens.
Good for them.
They don't care. We dont have to care either.
No cz ever again for me.
I hope China copies every cz available.
Puck cz.
