EGE Arms RV-TAC .410 9.5″ Tactical Revolver Shotgun - First Impressions, Updates...AND WARNINGS

badboybeeson said:
These revolver shotguns from TK have been on thr market what 8 years now?
They are a disaster, the disaster gets nicer looking, but it's still a bad design
Considering that abit of guns that have blown up and people getting injured, I'm surprised they have not been banned from import.
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Thank you Badboybeeson for your very honest opinion of these revolver-type 410 shotguns.

I've sent the photo of my blown up shotgun to two different Gunnutz members now. I hope no one gets hurt real bad, or worse..........:(

Yes they are a cool looking design, but they are a ticking time-bomb in my opinion....:(
 
Thunderhog said:
Thank you Badboybeeson for your very honest opinion of these revolver-type 410 shotguns.

I've sent the photo of my blown up shotgun to two different Gunnutz members now. I hope no one gets hurt real bad, or worse..........:(

Yes they are a cool looking design, but they are a ticking time-bomb in my opinion....:(
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Post some pictures here so everyone can see them, save you all the pms.
 
Please see post #16 for an explanation of the damage and the incident!......:)

I forgot to say the cylinder also blew open at the same time......:(

Now some would say, it doesn't look that bad, and I would almost agree. However when this occurred, the force it took to blow open the cylinder, send the gas-shield into orbit, and split the fore-stock was shocking to say the least. It felt like someone nailed my arm with a stick.:oops:

My winter coat protected my arm from the powder burns and blast. If this was a summer-time event, the outcome would have been a lot different.....:(

I'm certain I posted this event before, and oddly enough no-one took me serious. I am glad that some have taken note this time. I do not want anyone to get injured, or killed for that matter. This design is faulty from the get go.

They were branded as Sulan, Laser Arms, Canuck, Revolution Armory, Federation Firearms, Sovran Arms, and Jost Arms. As far as I know, they are all manufactured in the same Turkish Facility......:(
 
Thunderhog said:
Please see post #16 for an explanation of the damage and the incident!......:)

I forgot to say the cylinder also blew open at the same time......:(

Now some would say, it doesn't look that bad, and I would almost agree. However when this occurred, the force it took to blow open the cylinder, send the gas-shield into orbit, and split the fore-stock was shocking to say the least. It felt like someone nailed my arm with a stick.:oops:

My winter coat protected my arm from the powder burns and blast. If this was a summer-time event, the outcome would have been a lot different.....:(

I'm certain I posted this event before, and oddly enough no-one took me serious. I am glad that some have taken note this time. I do not want anyone to get injured, or killed for that matter. This design is faulty from the get go.

They were branded as Sulan, Laser Arms, Canuck, Revolution Armory, Federation Firearms, Sovran Arms, and Jost Arms. As far as I know, they are all manufactured in the same Turkish Facility......:(
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Thanks again for posting, Thunderhog. I think those who may ignore the warnings either do not own one of the aforementioned brands, or diminish things like faulty designs because they would then be forced to admit that they were "had", "duped", or whatever other superlative you want to add to describe the phenomenon. Certainly no one is happy to buy something that may be a dud or unsafe - I think psychologically it makes people think it reflects on their decision making, and in this case, I have no problem admitting that this was not the best gun buying decision I have made, and I won't start making excuses.

That said, I find is strange that the above list is so exhaustive, and it includes other Turkish brands like John Daly, the newly released Morrison, and then there are the rimfire Derya and Adler set. I can understand the need for different companies, but honestly, like Adler and Derya and like EGE and TR and Lazer/Federation Firearms - I don't get why, when they make pretty much identical models, why they need to have separate brands.

And then as I was sitting here trying to figure out why MOE is still used on some company's newly designed firearms (separate from the Turkey discussion), it dawned on me what the benefit would be of having different names. If one company releases a problematic product, and nowadays word travels fast, perhaps then shuttering that and moving product under a different name may cause some unsuspecting buyers to be none the wiser.

I remember growing up there were some Chinese restaurants like this, since my parents chose to eat at them many weekends - very occsionally, some unscrupulous restauranteur who did not observe best practices for food handling (guess there wasn't any back then and restaurant inspections were not as regulated as they are now), and customers complained and got sick or worse - guy just closes restaurant ABC and opens up restaurant DEF, sometimes in the exact same location. A logo change along with the name, different menus, etc., but same owner with same staff with same way of doing business. Some IT companies are like that too, thinking with a different name, somehow people will forget about the sub par products or services.

Not saying that's the case with the Turkish companies, but it makes no sense why create the same product, design and function and all, but call it something else.

You know, I just took the RV-TAC out of the safe...and took a flashlight to look up and down the barrel (underneath the handguard). There is nothing on there that is stamped that it takes 3" .410 shells. The box says that, the retailer's ad says it - the only thing I saw stamped on the barrel after close examination is "REAL OWNER'S MANUAL" (I gotta believe it meant to say "read owner's manual). Now I gotta believe if it didn't take 3" shells, they wouldn't fit into the cylinder (with a bit of room to spare). Still, you'd think that from a liability perspective, it should clearly state what caliber it takes (I get it, SKSes and old military / milsurp may not have this either). I don't get why the Turkish quality control is not that great, given that they churn out a lot of firearms.
 
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Could it be the ejector rod folding the hulls?
When ever I shoot shortened roll crimped hulls in any of my shotguns the ends burn a Lil bit whether its 10ga 12ga or 410. Even good hulls like AA and STS hulls melt at the ends yet the same load in a fold crimp doesnt
 
brybenn said:
Could it be the ejector rod folding the hulls?
When ever I shoot shortened roll crimped hulls in any of my shotguns the ends burn a Lil bit whether its 10ga 12ga or 410. Even good hulls like AA and STS hulls melt at the ends yet the same load in a fold crimp doesnt
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My Turkish Lazer single shot .410 break barrel / hinge action has shot these 3” s&b slug rounds and none of the hulls have any burning nor deformation. So that is my only point of comparison. I am picking up some troy slugs tomorrow and will see how it goes
 
I’ve only been shooting 2-1/2 shells through mine and since I reload my ammo I have noticed that the ends of the shells are getting crispy faster with this gun then with my lever or pump
After 3 loadings the crimp part of the hulls are quite crispy and are splitting
I get double the loadings from the hulls with the other guns
It must be because of the revolver design
With 3 inch shells being that much closer to the barrel/cylinder gap I can totally see the gasses burning and melting the ends of the hulls on the first firing
 
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So I contacted SFRC, for which the EGE manual says is the official Canadian support and warranty company for EGE firearms (among many others) just to advise them of my findings. The gunsmith there said that due to the flash shield, and the use of 3” shells, the melted hulls is to be expected. He also told me not to remove the flash shield (which I was not planning to do).

I will try the 2.5” slug shells next time I am at the club in 1.5 weeks’ time or so and report back
 
I admit I was tempted to buy one of these as I like unusual platforms. I've bought a few Turkish shotguns and haven't had any issues myself but I know build and material quality can be suspect.
Making a good quality revolver or lever action is difficult and needs high precision, good material. I've got a S&W 686 revolver that must have 35,000 rounds through it now and it shows to real wear and is still super accurate.
I suspect the timing was off on the gun that blew up. Shell wasn't lined up perfectly with the bore and the shaved load went sideways taking out the blast shield.
So I'll stay away from any Turkish made revolver or lever action myself.
 
I’ve got a Citadel 410 lever gun that I use as a squirrel gun and it’s built decently enough, has a steel reciever too but the chamber is real tight on it, lever mechanism is sloppy though
A lot of shells don’t want to fit it very good and if you force them in the extractor won’t pull them out
A lot of my reloads don’t even want to fit it especially if I’m using steel based hulls even though I’ve adjusted the collet sizer on my grabber press really tight
I’ve noticed with Turkish made 410s that the chamber sizes are not consistent
The revolver I got from TI is a bit on the loose side and the Rev Arms one I have is tight like the lever 410
I do wish these 410 revolvers came with a steel reciever I am seeing wear at the thrust area where the firing pin is and I don’t have that many loads through it
 
man i am some glad i came across this thread, i had recently bought a EGE arms lv-12 and assumed since it wasn’t terrible quality and seemed to work decently, that this would be the same, and it was not.
the shotgun was in the cart, but i’m some glad its out
thanks for the heads up guys
 
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