Handgun restricted/prohibited in an estate

Hondacrf said:
Maybe better to strip pistols.. selling the upper and strip the lower to its frame. Try to recoup as much as you can. By the time you pay the export fees and exchange usd rate. Maybe you can get $200 for glock 19. Am sure you could sell the upper in Canada for $400-$650..
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The idea of stripping the gun and selling all the parts is great until you consider that tens of thousands of people will have the same idea for tens upon tens of thousands of handguns. No matter what, the transfer ban has decimated the value of our handguns and we have Blackface to thank for that. .
 
y2k said:
Hello, wasn’t sure if this is the right place to put it but if a handgun is in an estate and will to somebody who has a restricted PAL, can it be transferred or is it destined for destruction?
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The executor has a fairly lengthy period of time to settle the estate ; if the executor starts to get push back on the time , you may be able to " store " the firearm at a business that is licensed to hold it ( at your cost ) in hopes the government changes . If the firearm has sentimental value , deactivation is an option as well . Best of luck .
 
y2k said:
What kind of a length of time six months?
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The time to settle an estate is somewhat open ended ; but the CFO will come looking for the firearm in question when the deceased R-PAL license comes up for renewal . When the license is not renewed , the wheels will start to turn in regards to any restricted or prohibited firearms that are in the deceased name .
 
bcsteve said:
I call BS on that. There's no exemption for police officers or armed guards.
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Canadian Armed Armored Car Guards will have an Authorization to Carry (ATC). Most Police Officers will probably not have one, unless they are a trapper, guide, prospector, or forestry worker, etc.

So an armored car guard would be eligible to buy a similar restricted pistol for personal target practice. I would think every province may look at this application differently, however in BC it does happen.

I just had this conversation with the firearms instructor who qualifies a lot of BC armed guards, he confirms it is possible in BC. Our Summerland BC CFO stated the same when I asked this same idea.

So this exemption does exist in BC. I'm not saying every guard might be eligible, but it does happen if you cross all the T's and dot every I......:)
 
Thunderhog said:
Canadian Armed Armored Car Guards will have an Authorization to Carry (ATC). Most Police Officers will probably not have one, unless they are a trapper, guide, prospector, or forestry worker, etc.

So an armored car guard would be eligible to buy a similar restricted pistol for personal target practice. I would think every province may look at this application differently, however in BC it does happen.

I just had this conversation with the firearms instructor who qualifies a lot of BC armed guards, he confirms it is possible in BC. Our Summerland BC CFO stated the same when I asked this same idea.

So this exemption does exist in BC. I'm not saying every guard might be eligible, but it does happen if you cross all the T's and dot every I......:)
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I work in the same building as the BC CFO, I'll ask them tomorrow.
 
Thunderhog said:
Canadian Armed Armored Car Guards will have an Authorization to Carry (ATC). Most Police Officers will probably not have one, unless they are a trapper, guide, prospector, or forestry worker, etc.

So an armored car guard would be eligible to buy a similar restricted pistol for personal target practice. I would think every province may look at this application differently, however in BC it does happen.

I just had this conversation with the firearms instructor who qualifies a lot of BC armed guards, he confirms it is possible in BC. Our Summerland BC CFO stated the same when I asked this same idea.

So this exemption does exist in BC. I'm not saying every guard might be eligible, but it does happen if you cross all the T's and dot every I......:)
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Thank you for that, I wouldn't have made my post without seeing the firearm in person.
 
Thunderhog said:
Canadian Armed Armored Car Guards will have an Authorization to Carry (ATC). Most Police Officers will probably not have one, unless they are a trapper, guide, prospector, or forestry worker, etc.

So an armored car guard would be eligible to buy a similar restricted pistol for personal target practice. I would think every province may look at this application differently, however in BC it does happen.

I just had this conversation with the firearms instructor who qualifies a lot of BC armed guards, he confirms it is possible in BC. Our Summerland BC CFO stated the same when I asked this same idea.

So this exemption does exist in BC. I'm not saying every guard might be eligible, but it does happen if you cross all the T's and dot every I......:)
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As far as I know (and I've imported handguns for all kinds of exempted people) armoured car guards who are employees do not get to buy a handgun for training on their own. The company they work for does get to buy all kinds and will let them carry while working.

The owner of the company will get to buy whatever he wants of course.

So going to work for the man is not the way. Starting your own company is.
 
bcsteve said:
I work in the same building as the BC CFO, I'll ask them tomorrow.
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Please do. However one never gets the same or correct answer when asking several different government workers any question.....:(

I have called the CFC in Miramichi five different times over several days and asked the exact same question, I received five different answers.....:(:oops:

So don't expect the same answer I got.:unsure:

Oddly enough it was my firearms trainers birthday today, and I called him. Asked the same question, answer was yes. Armed Guards can qualify with their ATC as an exemption to buy there own pistol for regular practice. The guns they currently used are owned by the armored car company....:)

It will be interesting if your CF Officer gives you the same answer. If they don't, oh well, no skin off my n@ts, as I'm not a licensed armored car employee!.....:) LOL:ROFLMAO:
 
y2k said:
Hello, wasn’t sure if this is the right place to put it but if a handgun is in an estate and will to somebody who has a restricted PAL, can it be transferred or is it destined for destruction?
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it can sit in the estate as is if it is stored properly, thou some exc. don't care or want it sitting around ,ie the widow.
Mind you I have been out of touch for a few yrs.
del3840 said:
Thought Pre 1946 prohibs were still allowed..?
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allowed to transfer ? no they are still handguns, allowed to keep and use, sure if you are 12.6, same as any you already own, but ownership can't be transferred to a individual , just to a licensed dealer.
BTW ,I believe a person can still export his gun out of the country to a FAA dealer in US if they want to do all the work.
depending on the gun, some can't be imported into the US, ie US marked milt.
KotKotofeich would have a better take on that.

PS, I was a licensed dealer gunsmith for many years, so delt with a few CFO and firearm tec's in Ottawa.
I have never seen 2 CFO's that would give the same answers to a question, unless it was in black and white in the regulations.
when you phone the department , most of the time you are talking to phone people, or firearm officers, not the CFO.
We had some good ones here, but also one or 2 over the years that where a pita,
most of the good ones where retired RCMP / police officers.

If some armed guard got a transfer, he had a good line, and a friendly CFO I would think.
I know police officers that can not buy a handgun any more for their personal use at a range any more.
 
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Robert Walker said:
My post that you called BS on did actually happen and I've seen the fire arm in question.
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Thunderhog said:
Please do. However one never gets the same or correct answer when asking several different government workers any question.....:(

I have called the CFC in Miramichi five different times over several days and asked the exact same question, I received five different answers.....:(:oops:

So don't expect the same answer I got.:unsure:

Oddly enough it was my firearms trainers birthday today, and I called him. Asked the same question, answer was yes. Armed Guards can qualify with their ATC as an exemption to buy there own pistol for regular practice. The guns they currently used are owned by the armored car company....:)

It will be interesting if your CF Officer gives you the same answer. If they don't, oh well, no skin off my n@ts, as I'm not a licensed armored car employee!.....:) LOL:ROFLMAO:
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“Armoured car guard would not be approved. Firearms and training time is provided by their employer. They would not meet the requirements outlined in the regulation as needing the firearm.”
 
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marshall said:
it can sit in the estate as is if it is stored properly, thou some exc. don't care or want it sitting around ,ie the widow.
Mind you I have been out of touch for a few yrs.

allowed to transfer ? no they are still handguns, allowed to keep and use, sure if you are 12.6, same as any you already own, but ownership can't be transferred to a individual , just to a licensed dealer.
BTW ,I believe a person can still export his gun out of the country to a FAA dealer in US if they want to do all the work.
depending on the gun, some can't be imported into the US, ie US marked milt.
KotKotofeich would have a better take on that.

PS, I was a licensed dealer gunsmith for many years, so delt with a few CFO and firearm tec's in Ottawa.
I have never seen 2 CFO's that would give the same answers to a question, unless it was in black and white in the regulations.
when you phone the department , most of the time you are talking to phone people, or firearm officers, not the CFO.
We had some good ones here, but also one or 2 over the years that where a pita,
most of the good ones where retired RCMP / police officers.

If some armed guard got a transfer, he had a good line, and a friendly CFO I would think.
I know police officers that can not buy a handgun any more for their personal use at a range any more.
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Exactly my point.

And you’re right, police officers do not qualify as they do not have an ATC permit. They have a badge which doesn’t apply.😳

An ATC is required for the exemption status, or the Olympic Target Shooter Exemption.

I would think, some armed guards will get the exemption confirmed, others will be denied.

It will depend who is on the other line at the time!….:(
 
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