The $12,000 DT11 Technology is Now in a Field Gun. Does it Matter?

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I've been running the A400 for years. It's reliable, it cycles, I've never had a reason to complain.

The AX800 is not an A400 update. Beretta pulled the long forcing cone technology straight from the DT11 competition guns, the ones Olympic shooters use, the ones that start at $12,000. That's now in a field shotgun.

Whether that translates into something you'll actually feel is what this video is about.

We also get into the polymer receiver, which is going to bother some people. I give you my honest read on it.

If you're coming from an A400 or shopping for your first Beretta, watch this before you decide
 
The long forcing cone technology in the DT11 was meant to reduce pellet deformation with lead loads and at least to some degree it’s been successful at doing that.
To put this concept into a gun used primarily for waterfowl with steel probably isn’t going to make much difference since steel doesn’t deform to the same degree that lead does. Ok if your using lead although most shooters won’t notice any difference so it’s kinda like the placebo effect.
 
Arietta said:
I'd look forward to test firing one to see if the trigger is that much better. I've shot a few A400s and the triggers are not great compared to my 391s.
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You can greatly upgrade the trigger with a simple spring swap. Mine came from Tac Ord.

Excellent trigger in my A400 (and I am fussy about triggers), not sure on weight but it is very light (will measure today and report back).
 
Sniffer said:
You can greatly upgrade the trigger with a simple spring swap. Mine came from Tac Ord.

Excellent trigger in my A400 (and I am fussy about triggers), not sure on weight but it is very light (will measure today and report back).
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I measured mine at 2 - 2.5lbs multiple times today.

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It does have some creep but its still 100 times better than the triggers in my other shotguns (5 - 6 lbs even after 1000s of rounds)
 
the spank said:
Oh! A lengthened forcing cone? What a 60+ year old new innovative technology!! :ROFLMAO:
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The barrels on my DT11 are closer to the Fabarm Tribore. Three different inner dimensions: Long forcing cones, over-bored middle and then tapering down to the choke tube. So only a 20 year old new innovative technology. ;)

But it does seem to work. My DT patterns really well.
 
Arietta said:
The barrels on my DT11 are closer to the Fabarm Tribore. Three different inner dimensions: Long forcing cones, over-bored middle and then tapering down to the choke tube. So only a 20 year old new innovative technology. ;)

But it does seem to work. My DT patterns really well.
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You just described the inner bore of my 120 year old Lefever….
 
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I handled one of these at the LGS the other day. I didn't fire it, so can't comment on that aspect. The balance, however, is incredible. It pulls up and sets unlike any other waterfowl shotgun I've used. I think I'm going to have to give one a go.
 
the technology will not make you a better wing shooter or target shooter only more practice and more practice will make you a better wing or targets if you are a B class or A class shooter the only thing that will make you a AA shooter is more practice
 
struff55 said:
the technology will not make you a better wing shooter or target shooter only more practice and more practice will make you a better wing or targets if you are a B class or A class shooter the only thing that will make you a AA shooter is more practice
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Your average shooter will probably never gain even one target over several years with this technology but it sure sells guns!
 
struff55 said:
the technology will not make you a better wing shooter or target shooter only more practice and more practice will make you a better wing or targets if you are a B class or A class shooter the only thing that will make you a AA shooter is more practice
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I have been asked multiple times, what does a person need to do to get their 25/50/75/100 patches, and I always give the same reply. It takes practise, and perhaps some good coaching, but it definitely takes some natural ability. Some people can practise regularly for many years, and will likely get their 25 straight patch, but many never get the rest of the patches. Other people have their 25 straight patch in a couple of months, and the rest within a year or two, because they have more natural ability.
 
stubblejumper said:
I have been asked multiple times, what does a person need to do to get their 25/50/75/100 patches, and I always give the same reply. It takes practise, and perhaps some good coaching, but it definitely takes some natural ability. Some people can practise regularly for many years, and will likely get their 25 straight patch, but many never get the rest of the patches. Other people have their 25 straight patch in a couple of months, and the rest within a year or two, because they have more natural ability.
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you are correct about ability
people have shot 300-400 straight
 
Everyone screams gun fit is the most important thing then when beretta brings out an adjustable gun designed for waterfowl everyone screams it wont help and its over priced
A hunting gun that can fit during differing seasons is a great benefit and will help. How many real hunters have missed an opportunity because of heavy clothing? I know I have. Its why I switched to a 1301 comp for waterfowl as I wear a life jacket and hunt from a kayak
Id have bought the new 800 if the forend didnt have that weird raised checkmark style rib right where I grasp the forend
 
I said it before the Savage Renegauge is ugly bow heavy and a lovely think to clean but it has adjustable lop and comb .It workd very well for changing from light jackets to duffle coats.Also it was not 3k. Not saying its for everyone but it works for me and I have had them all, SBE ,A400, Browning Gold
 
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