African Hunting Safari

Well i guess for some of us $15-20k is a lot of money, I can’t see my self putting that kind of money on a trip just for me lol.
Anyway, I really enjoy these threads cause you always learn stuff from the people with experience on the matter!!
Thanks guys and if you have pictures of your trips post them !!
 
But that's the thing...you don't need to win the lotto. While the total price for a hunt in Africa can look pretty daunting, there are ways to ease the impact on your bank account.

1) Book the hunt a couple of years ahead. You will usually have to pay some percentage of the daily rate in order to hold your hunt date. If that's $500/day for a 10 day plains game hunt in RSA, you'll have to drop $2500 right away. Set aside money the next year to pay for the remaining daily rates. Then, usually a few months before the hunt, you will pay the rest of the daily rates. Once you've gone and come back you will receive a bill from the outfitter to cover the trophy fees. Depending on what you take that will be anywhere from a couple grand to 5 or 6K, but you will have spread out the payments over a span of a couple of years which makes it much more manageable.

2) Work closely with your taxidermist to defer the cost until all is finished. If they have the freezer space and are willing, you can spread out your taxidermy over a couple of years. I did that when I went to Zimbabwe. I had my impala, warthog skull, and cape buffalo done right away but left the full-mount civet for a year. Again, spreading the costs out.

3) Use airline points to cover your flights. I did this when I went to Zimbabwe and it ended up only costing me a few hundred bucks to cover the taxes and fees. This was using the CIBC Aventura Visa, but the RBC Avion or BMO World Elite would work just as well.

So to break it down:

Year 1: 50% of daily rate paid
Year 2: set aside remainder of daily rate. Book flights with points and pay fees with cash (or points, if you want)
Year 3: Hunt, pay the balance of the trophy fees
Year 4: Pay for shipping and Taxidermy

When you do it this way, a $15K plains game hunt in Namibia becomes much more affordable. Similarly, a $30K cape buffalo hunt in Zimbabwe becomes much easier to swallow, though it is more of a stretch.
Great info and unless the liberals give me a "Yuge" raise in my CPP and OAS I'll have to settle to read your stories and enjoy all the Africa pics you guys post. I love the pics so keep them coming. :)
 
Well i guess for some of us $15-20k is a lot of money, I can’t see my self putting that kind of money on a trip just for me lol.
Anyway, I really enjoy these threads cause you always learn stuff from the people with experience on the matter!!
Thanks guys and if you have pictures of your trips post them !!
You can do a very nice eight day trip, all inclusive, with 7 plains game animals, avoiding big-ticket animals like Eland, Roan and Sable, including round trip airfare for $10K Canadian, "IF" you don't need to bring back trophies. For many, a few hundred great pictures are enough. EC hunts can be had for Kudu, Black Wildebeest, Springbok, Warthog, Impala, Blesbuck, Mountain Reedbuck. I will post an example link below, to a highly reputable outfit in the East Cape... this by no means the cheapest, but gives an idea of what can be done.

https://nickbowkerhunts.com/african-hunting-packages/
 
I hunted Namibia with Aru Game Lodges a few years ago and I recommend them. I have only hunted Africa that one time so I can't compare against others from experience, but from watching numerous videos of other people's hunts in Africa, including Namibia, I think my experience was very good and compares well with others. I'm happy to answer questions on this thread or by PM.

I plan on going back and will most likely go back to Aru. It may be nice to try something different, but I enjoyed it so much and want to see their hunting properties again. I like the people who run it and their staff, and want to give them repeat business.
 
People often ask me what it costs to hunt in Africa, and its hard to give a simple answer. However when I break down different hunts a common answer is “But, but but I could buy a new quad; a decent second hand pickup or a new truck for that”. I’ve got to where I just say then go buy a new quad, or new truck and come talk to me when you don’t need one. Its actually pretty close, a good plains game hunt does cost about the same as a decent new quad, buffalo hunts cost about the same as a decent 3 year year old 4x4 and elephant will use up the price of a brand new one. Thats the way it is,

To be frank, the most common reason for not going to Africa is the guy’s wife won’t let him.
 
Can those with experience talk about "getting there" a bit.

Info about flights, connections, time, etc.

Thanks.
Depends on where you are going... but you can literally settle flights in minutes, cost is roughly $1800 - $2500 economy, depending on the seasonal demand. More layovers and stops might make it cheaper, but not worth it in my mind. General 28 - 36 hours flight duration with layovers. I find a good route is through Frankfurt, to whatever major city you are flying to., although there are those that prefer Emirates via Doha... I would NOT recommend that for the foreseeable future. Keep in mind that remote hunts may require charter flights to get there, these can be as much as the international flights. Best to talk to your outfitter or check their website for info.
 
I just wanted to say thank you for all of the replies and offers of assistance in this thread.

When my son stopped playing competitive ice hockey I started a 2nd job teaching evenings and weekends to fill the time we used to spend at the rink/on the road and I've been busy with a class. It was great getting caught up on this thread.

I've been in contact with a couple outfits and have it down to two. One is preferred but I'm not sure it's going to work out.

In any case I will be posting updates and asking more questions as the planning moves along.

Thanks again everyone!
 
But that's the thing...you don't need to win the lotto. While the total price for a hunt in Africa can look pretty daunting, there are ways to ease the impact on your bank account.

1) Book the hunt a couple of years ahead. You will usually have to pay some percentage of the daily rate in order to hold your hunt date. If that's $500/day for a 10 day plains game hunt in RSA, you'll have to drop $2500 right away. Set aside money the next year to pay for the remaining daily rates. Then, usually a few months before the hunt, you will pay the rest of the daily rates. Once you've gone and come back you will receive a bill from the outfitter to cover the trophy fees. Depending on what you take that will be anywhere from a couple grand to 5 or 6K, but you will have spread out the payments over a span of a couple of years which makes it much more manageable.

2) Work closely with your taxidermist to defer the cost until all is finished. If they have the freezer space and are willing, you can spread out your taxidermy over a couple of years. I did that when I went to Zimbabwe. I had my impala, warthog skull, and cape buffalo done right away but left the full-mount civet for a year. Again, spreading the costs out.

3) Use airline points to cover your flights. I did this when I went to Zimbabwe and it ended up only costing me a few hundred bucks to cover the taxes and fees. This was using the CIBC Aventura Visa, but the RBC Avion or BMO World Elite would work just as well.

So to break it down:

Year 1: 50% of daily rate paid
Year 2: set aside remainder of daily rate. Book flights with points and pay fees with cash (or points, if you want)
Year 3: Hunt, pay the balance of the trophy fees
Year 4: Pay for shipping and Taxidermy

When you do it this way, a $15K plains game hunt in Namibia becomes much more affordable. Similarly, a $30K cape buffalo hunt in Zimbabwe becomes much easier to swallow, though it is more of a stretch.
I got lucky when I worked there, one of the shop guys' uncles ran a safari outfit up around Kruger. Comparatively cheap, and a very good time. - dan
 
Depends on where you are going... but you can literally settle flights in minutes, cost is roughly $1800 - $2500 economy, depending on the seasonal demand. More layovers and stops might make it cheaper, but not worth it in my mind. General 28 - 36 hours flight duration with layovers. I find a good route is through Frankfurt, to whatever major city you are flying to., although there are those that prefer Emirates via Doha... I would NOT recommend that for the foreseeable future. Keep in mind that remote hunts may require charter flights to get there, these can be as much as the international flights. Best to talk to your outfitter or check their website for info.

Looks like current flights in the shortime atleast are at a premium aswell. Easily justified by airlines with the middle east routes currently.

I too enjoy the frankfurt route, for a couple reasons. One, it was both red eye flights, vyr to frankfurt, then there to JHB. And two, frankfurt is basically on the same timezone as jhb and harare etc. My secret to zero jetlag, and I mean ZERO. Was I stayed awake the entire red eye from vancouver to Frankfurt, watched 3 movies. then had a small nap on layover. basically now on same timezone as final destination, I slept what I could on the redeye down to JHB. it worked tremendously well, and even Buzz my PH said he had never had a NA client be awake or good that fast.

I have heard some issues with guns through frankfurt and england, more the the other major hubs. But Im sure its subjective too.
 
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Looks like current flights in the shortime atleast are at a premium aswell. Easily justified by airlines with the middle east routes currently.

I too enjoy the frankfurt route, for a couple reasons. One, it was both red eye flights, vyr to frankfurt, then there to JHB. And two, frankfurt is basically on the same timezone as jhb and harare etc. My secret to zero jetlag, and I mean ZERO. Was I stayed awake the entire red eye from vancouver to Frankfurt, watched 3 movies. then had a small nap on layover. basically now on same timezone as final destination, I slept what I could on the redeye down to JHB. it worked tremendously well, and even Buzz my PH said he had never had a NA client be awake or good that fast.

I have heard some issues with guns through frankfurt and england, more the the other major hubs. But Im sure its subjective too.
Yeah, the red-eye flights are nice, although I am flying YYZ to FRA... The key to traveling with guns through Frankfurt is to fly with Star Aliiance through to your final destination. This way, they automatically transfer your luggage through. If you have to collect your baggage and recheck your guns through German security, you are in for a major hassle. Always put an air-tag or "android-tag" in your rifle case and your ammo case which will be locked in your checked bag.. one, to give you piece of mind that they are making the trip with you and two, if your bags miss a connection, you can direct the airline to them.
 
hoytcanon, am I understanding you correctly that flying with a Star Alliance airline allows a hunter with firearms to transit Frankfurt without a firearm permit from the Frankfurt airport? I was under the impression that a permit was required just to land there with firearms.
I completely agree with the air-tag suggestion. Saved me a bunch of anxiety last time I flew to Africa.
 
hoytcanon, am I understanding you correctly that flying with a Star Alliance airline allows a hunter with firearms to transit Frankfurt without a firearm permit from the Frankfurt airport? I was under the impression that a permit was required just to land there with firearms.
I completely agree with the air-tag suggestion. Saved me a bunch of anxiety last time I flew to Africa.
Yes, two trips through Frankfurt with firearms and using Star Alliance flights through YYZ to Jo Berg/Livingstone and Windhoek, and firearms are transfered automatically based on documentation provided to the Airline for the first flight (AC to Lufthansa). If you switch to a non-affiliated airline in FRA, you have to go through the hassle of German documentation... I stick with Star Alliance flights to avoid the potential hassles.
 
Very good to know! I'm currently booked with Qatar air / Doha / Joberg for my August hunt in Mozambique, and with the USA/Iran war an alternative route through Frankfurt to Joberg is looking like a better idea.
 
Yes, two trips through Frankfurt with firearms and using Star Alliance flights through YYZ to Jo Berg/Livingstone and Windhoek, and firearms are transfered automatically based on documentation provided to the Airline for the first flight (AC to Lufthansa). If you switch to a non-affiliated airline in FRA, you have to go through the hassle of German documentation... I stick with Star Alliance flights to avoid the potential hassles.
Would this be the same for all star alliance flights regardless of where the stop is?

I've seen ones with a 4 hour stop in Zurich and am curious if it would be comparable to the stop in Frankfurt.
 
Would this be the same for all star alliance flights regardless of where the stop is?

I've seen ones with a 4 hour stop in Zurich and am curious if it would be comparable to the stop in Frankfurt.
The layover and location doesn't matter, only that you stick with Star Alliance for the full trip. Having said that, I should note that there are circumstance where you don't get to choose, if a flight gets canceled and your only option is to change to a non-affliated airline, you may well encounter the issues at any given location, not just Germany, although Germany tends to be a stickler. In general we are only talking about an irritation not a road block, hundreds of German citizens hunt Africa every year, so it is not uncommon for them to deal with firearms where the final destination is somewhere in Africa.
 
Very good to know! I'm currently booked with Qatar air / Doha / Joberg for my August hunt in Mozambique, and with the USA/Iran war an alternative route through Frankfurt to Joberg is looking like a better idea.
If you have the option to change the route, or get a refund and rebook, I would definitely do that. Personally, I would avoid the Doha route until there is an official and proven "all clear."
 
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I went a couple of years ago to Namibia. We flew through Frankfurt Germany both ways. I have heard if youre taking rifles avoid the UK. I booked my own flights just watch for deals. I was told you can get direct flights to South Africa out of New York.

I had my mounts and rugs completed in Namibia. I think it is about the same cost to fly them back and get done here. Depends where you live the trophy will be imported through Vancover or Toronto.

If you can swing it take a few extra days and do some sight seeing. I will get some better pictures of my Kudu and Oryx. I had them done with pedestal mounts. If your looking for a great experience I would recommend Sesembo out of Namibia. No high fenced animals on his property. The only fences are cattle fences.
 
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