Looking for a gunsmith to work on Shultz and Larsen M65DL
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I shot many heavy kicking rifles in my home made "sled". It weighed 18 pounds and I let it recoil... it had feet made for sliding on a bench.
Never damaged any stocks nor any scopes.
Can anyone put forth a theory on how a sled could damage a scope? There would be less recoil on the scope. Shooting standing where the rifle has freedom to recoil the most, is the hardest force a scope is subject to. Adding 18 pounds to the stock with a sled reduces the forces on the scope, not increases it.
As far as damaging a stock the sled would have to be extremely heavy. A friend of mine used to crack stocks as he weighed 375 pounds and didn't move much on recoil, stressed the bedding to the max... almost like placing the butt against a tree.
Never damaged any stocks nor any scopes.
Can anyone put forth a theory on how a sled could damage a scope? There would be less recoil on the scope. Shooting standing where the rifle has freedom to recoil the most, is the hardest force a scope is subject to. Adding 18 pounds to the stock with a sled reduces the forces on the scope, not increases it.
As far as damaging a stock the sled would have to be extremely heavy. A friend of mine used to crack stocks as he weighed 375 pounds and didn't move much on recoil, stressed the bedding to the max... almost like placing the butt against a tree.
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The ones that I saw hat damaged stocks were had a stop for the stock, so there was nowhere fr th energy to go as opposed to a system where the stock is held against the shoulder .
It was like holding the butt stock against a wall and pulling the trigger.
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Never saw one wreck a scope, but I saw two stocks break at the wrist when using them with about 30 pounds on the sled.
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Explain how an air rifle damages scopes?
That's easy.
A pcp air rifle does not, but some powerful spring guns slam the rifle forward, not rearward as a center fire rifle does. Some scopes can not survive this reverse recoil. It requires a scope and rings designed for a spring gun.
Where as a rifle fired in a sled simply has it's recoil slowed down... No sudden forward movement of the rifle at all.
I have used a sled for quite some time ,sighting in many different guns. I never put weight in the sled and never had any damage to a rifle.You still have to get your shoulder behind the sled and the butt stock so doesn’t dampen the recoil much .Primary purpose of the sled is to hold the rifle steady
Guntech- the way you describe your "sled" use is very akin to just adding a heavier stock, in my view. But anchoring or really weighting down a sled can certainly be hard on stocks and bedding, not to mention I would think the rifle wouldn't shoot to the same point-of-aim as if properly benched.
Certainly doesn't compute that it would damage a scope in any way though.....
Certainly doesn't compute that it would damage a scope in any way though.....
says right in the sled user guide to not add more than 25#, and imo sliding feet are a good idea too. nice diy there guntech
I guess that the butt contact point could be out of line and focus too much force on a small area top or bottom of butt pad, stressing the stock with twist? just spitballing idk
I guess that the butt contact point could be out of line and focus too much force on a small area top or bottom of butt pad, stressing the stock with twist? just spitballing idk
I was able to shoot good groups and sight in rifles with my 'sled'. I would compare point of impact results with shooting off the bench with elbows and my forearm supported. It worked for me. My self and a customer built three of these sleds.
Yes a 40 pound sled is very heavy and most likely can cause stock damage, but there is nothing linking the use of a sled to scope damage. I believe the scope damage your friend experienced with the use of a sled are just a coincidence. A sled simply reduces the sharp impact to a scope regardless of how heavy the sled is.
well an epilog here - finally have this putting up MOA groups - 3 three-shot groups in a row yesterday with an unlikely ammo - I've used it before when I had 8mm Mauser, and it did really well, but it doesn't perform in my 6.5x55 or .308 W . Local hardeware store had it on sale for 49 bucks cdn as I was headed to range so I figured what the hell.
Now most of the credit, I think, is the deep clean after the borescope told the tale, and I realized I wasn't getting it as clean as I thought - I also relieved the barrel channel a bit more to ensure no contact. The G96 nitro solvent helped dissolve the nasties.
Now most of the credit, I think, is the deep clean after the borescope told the tale, and I realized I wasn't getting it as clean as I thought - I also relieved the barrel channel a bit more to ensure no contact. The G96 nitro solvent helped dissolve the nasties.
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Well, Kamlooky, you're correct on the lead sled issue - it snapped the rear mount at range today - I'll still use the sled, but I won't be using the butt strap.
I have located the broken Redfield SR ring base and have it inbound. I was wondering why my shots were stringing while I was out ammo testing, 3 different brands, when it failed. This sled has #25 weight on it and would weigh about #30 all in.
I have located the broken Redfield SR ring base and have it inbound. I was wondering why my shots were stringing while I was out ammo testing, 3 different brands, when it failed. This sled has #25 weight on it and would weigh about #30 all in.
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Not the first time I have seen that !
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