Barrel - Rifle Tuners

Mysticprecision said:
how many F class competitors load to "11" or "12"?

Records were set without any tuners... did all of them fall recently?

If you understand what a tuner is, then you understand what it can and cannot do. Just another tool and very fashionable these days.

Jerry
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Jerry your just being defensive with no reason to be ? Your negativity towards something that works for many shooters is wrong !
All I asked if people using them are getting results. ?
If you never did just say ! I don’t use or believe in them except for 22 rimfire !
Don’t a need useless lecture . 🤷‍♂️😀

So my assumption 🤷‍♂️ is that u have tested tuners on several rifles - cartridges and have found them to Non Beneficial ? Correct ? or have you used them on CF rifles ?
 
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I have tuners on every rimfire rifle, when the bullet is in the barrel 3 times as long as a centerfire rifle, every bit helps, especially when you can't reload your match ammo

I've watched 6 people in the last year play with EC tuners, and listen gospelly to cortina, and I've witnessed all of them not being able to repeat results on paper 2 day in a row, thus chasing their tails and burning expensive consumables up chasing something that I do with ease with proper case prep and load developement.

I've had my rifle drop out of tune from the weight of my mirrage band, either putting it on after load developement was done or taking it off, for most matches now I use a fan over the barrel rather then a shield, after that discovery, me and marshman came to the conclusion in Barrierre that tuning our barrels with numberous elastic bands was going to be the way of the future going into 2026, we're not on youtube yet, but the results of using eleastic bands is proving to be very very successful, you can play with both the location on the barrel, and the number of bands used, as well as how tight you put them on to help hold a choke on the muzzle when the barrel heats up, my best day on the range so far was with 10 elastics on the muzzle to start, I added 1 for every degree the temp went up and took 2 off for every 5% decrease in humidity, note book is huge tracking the results, V-count increased by 32.7% but only when shooting uphill above 13% from level, shooting downhill as resulted in all negetive effects regardless of the number of bands and locations on the barrel, from the discussions on LRH forum, a left hand twist barrel may be required for shooting downhill in the nothern hemisphere, after lengthy conversations with Frank from Bartlein and Brian at Berger we came to an agreement that the best set up is right handed action screw threads on the front action screw and left handed threads on the rear, this ensures no torque or twisting on the action, this will be covered in great detail with crayon diagrams in chapter 3 of my upcoming book, right now I am busy plagurizing the introduction but making great headway with AI

The key to seeing results with a tuner on YOUR rifle likely lays in watching someone else shoot it........
 
I used Boss and Que tuners in the past. Both allowed dialing in factory ammo reasonably well. I'll take that as proof of concept. I don't own any of those rifles anymore though, and find handloading does just as good a job, often better, though with more effort. I can see where they would be useful in cartridges you can't handload for however. - dan
 
i install a lot of tuners. And run them on my F class rifles. They do work.
The intention is not to use them to make a load shoot. They are more so when you travel to matches you have the ability to adjust to meet the environmental or conditions where you are.
When you travel 1500 miles or more and your rifle is tall. Your ammo is already loaded you can adjust, or as the day gets warmer.
I have used ezel tuners , cortina , Bramley. Main difference is the weight and how you turn them to make adjustments.
If you install one do some testing with it to see how it effects the groups
 
dan, could a tuner be a better choice for 'day of the match' tuning, after doing the regular load development for a best load, to tune to the atmospherics de jour ?

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ruger-ruger said:
i install a lot of tuners. And run them on my F class rifles. They do work.
The intention is not to use them to make a load shoot. They are more so when you travel to matches you have the ability to adjust to meet the environmental or conditions where you are.
When you travel 1500 miles or more and your rifle is tall. Your ammo is already loaded you can adjust, or as the day gets warmer.
I have used ezel tuners , cortina , Bramley. Main difference is the weight and how you turn them to make adjustments.
If you install one do some testing with it to see how it effects the groups
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thanks for that r-r, hits the point of my first post a week ago
 
yodave post reminded me of the rubber Limbsaver De-resonator marketed for tuning over 20 yag iirc
guys that took the time had success with those too, tuning otc loads for hunting
 
todbartell said:
Just another RJ thread where he gets mad when it doesn't go the way he wanted it to go LMAO :ROFLMAO:
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No Not mad ! just get dissapointed when people cannot answer what was asked and dream up B*LLSH*T to particpate in some thing they clearly should not such as Stuff55 post ! perfect example of useless INFO ! :rolleyes:
There were some quality answers by a FEW quality people;)

HEY apparently you liked it :p
 
sonichanxiao said:
Form my experience, it does not make significant difference if you reload already and using a heavy contour barrel. The weight of the tuner is not that significant comparing to the barrel weight.
But for rimfire, it appears helping shrink the group size.
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so what brand tuner on what rifle - cartridge did you try it out with no good results ?
 
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