First hunting rifle

Definitely planning on reloading eventually. I've been debating between the 308 and 3006 for my first to try capture as many options as I can. Seems like I shouldn't worry too much about it being tikka as folks are suggesting that some of the others are just as good.
Glad to hear you're into reloading. Great hobby
I chose the 06 because I was living in the Yukon and I wanted to hunt grizzly with 200-220gr bullets and push them faster than what a 308 could achieve.
If you're not into pushing the big bullets a 308 will do fine.
It is nice to have the option if the want /need arises though. The 06 is the most versatile cartridge out there for bullet weights and I can't tell the difference in recoil to a 308.
 
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And there is, of course, The Swede.

Realistically though, this first rifle will likely not be "the one", so I wouldn't invest too much in it. Explore a few, and buy used before you settle

And there is, of course, The Swede.

Realistically though, this first rifle will likely not be "the one", so I wouldn't invest too much in it. Explore a few, and buy used before you settle on something.
I want to buy used but there are not many t3x lites coming up over the last few weeks in exchange. Luckily I have time.
 
Off script. Bergara B-14 Hunter/Ridge/Wilderness Sierra all fit your budget. I have a Wilderness Sierra in 308, and it's my favourite rifle. I love my Tikkas too, but I feel Bergara is a better first rifle as there is nothing to upgrade. If you want wood they have the B-14 Timber. $1200-$1500 depending on the model. The guys have a ton in-stock https://store.theshootingcentre.com/. Canuck now exports them right from Spain instead of through the US.
I've heard mixed opinions re wood vs polymer. From the more experienced hunters - I'd love to hear if it's easier with a polymer lugging the weight around. I was leaning towards polymer for that purpose but I've always preferred how wood looks.
 
I've heard mixed opinions re wood vs polymer. From the more experienced hunters - I'd love to hear if it's easier with a polymer lugging the weight around. I was leaning towards polymer for that purpose but I've always preferred how wood looks.
I don’t find a difference when hunting in non-precipitation, regular conditions. Modern wood rifles are pretty light , less than 7 lbs w/o scope. I have a mix of both. Ultralites probably cant be wood.
 
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I've heard mixed opinions re wood vs polymer. From the more experienced hunters - I'd love to hear if it's easier with a polymer lugging the weight around. I was leaning towards polymer for that purpose but I've always preferred how wood looks.
Most of my rifles except one are wood and blue and I never had a problem, I have one that is less than 7lbs scoped and an other one just around 7lbs scoped and other in the 7.5-8.5 lbs… wood is good!
 
All Tikka’s are long actions, so I would say get a T3x 30-06 and don’t look back, stainless is nice but not that big of a deal, a properly maintained blued rifle will stand up to the elements just fine.
^ This there’s no difference in Tikka actions just a bolt stop position your stroke will accommodate .5” longer cartridge only weight savings will be in barrel length/profile and or stock
 
A 308 with a 130gr Barnes TTSX at over 3100 FPS can act a lot like a 30-06. Or a 270. While burning much less powder and kicking less, for example :p

For glass I really like Trijicon for the last few years. Accupoint and Credo have both been very good. I find the glass is better than comparably priced Leupys and they are robust scopes.
Any particular models I should check out?
 
Tikka good, so are a fair number of others.

For calibre. 308, 7-08 has less recoil and can still take down basically anything in NA. 270 is another great all round cartridge. You will find ammo all over for those at decent prices.

For optic with your budget. You could look into a Zeiss V4 and you'd have a hell of a rifle to do anything with.
 
If I may suggest,
Keep the caliber standard - no magnums
I have owned a few rifles over the years and ones that stand out so me are
Tikka - although like others have said, are massively inflated (maybe for justifiable reason)
Winchester XPR - very accurate out of box
Sauer 100/mauser m18 - Tikka killer; last time I saw, there’s an m18 in 308 on sale for 699 or something. I’d hop on that and never look back.
Vanguard - though every one I’ve owned has been picky with ammo, and I’ve owned a lot
Not a fan of the other budget rifles but that’s just me.
Good luck with your search!
Let us know what you end up with!
 
If I may suggest,
Keep the caliber standard - no magnums
I have owned a few rifles over the years and ones that stand out so me are
Tikka - although like others have said, are massively inflated (maybe for justifiable reason)
Winchester XPR - very accurate out of box
Sauer 100/mauser m18 - Tikka killer; last time I saw, there’s an m18 in 308 on sale for 699 or something. I’d hop on that and never look back.
Vanguard - though every one I’ve owned has been picky with ammo, and I’ve owned a lot
Not a fan of the other budget rifles but that’s just me.
Good luck with your search!
Let us know what you end up with!
I got a dud XPR, patterned like a shotgun at 100yds (best repeatable load was 2.5” at 100 yds) with any ammo that I tried. I have had good luck with a Vanguard in 308, my Smith and Wesson 1500 in 30-06 took quite a few tries til I found ammo it liked, then I found an even better handloads recipe for it. I really wanted to like the XPR, hopefully the replacement shoots better. The XPR was in 7mm-08.

My wife has a Tikka T3 in 30-06. Shoots well, but kicks like a mule.
 
.308/30-06 would likely be my choices given your scenario. More than likely ‘06, just in case of a Bear encounter where a little extra thump is needed being where you are.

.30Cal has a plethora of both reloading components and data online so finding a starting point once you begin to reload would be easy.

Wood/Blued, Blued/Matte/Synthetic or SS/Synthetic? Personal choice, I have owned all three and don’t mind either way.

If you go the synthetic route, I’d be swapping out the cheap tupperware stock found on most of the models suggested for at least a B&C Stock and have it bedded. That will help with any recoil sensitivity you might encounter and help shore up the accuracy of whatever make/model you decided on.

Next up is glass..

Buy the best you can afford.

I’m a Leupold guy so anything from VX-II up to VX-III ( i ) would fit well. Also a Bushnell Elite 3200/4200 wouldn’t be a bad choice. They have worked well for me in the past and I still own a 4200 so that says something.

Something in the 2-7, 2.5-8 or 3-9x40mm range. The latter two will still have some range behind them if needed but also lower power for dense cover work given your main Blacktail situation.

Clarity is key here, what works for one may not work for you, so try a bunch of makes and models and see what suits your eyes.

A lot of folk tend to overthink and under pay for Optics sadly..

Just keep it simple and you will be good to go.
 
Good thread and lots of good info, my take for what it’s worth;
At this point you don’t know the dance you are going to or who it’s with so very difficult to dress perfectly for the occasion but easy to not stand out for the wrong reasons.
BC and big game covers just about every type of terrain, environmental condition, range and target size.
Also a factor (likely) is the group you are going with, most won’t give a care what you pack in either cartridge or rifle but some might so that may play a role (or not) but whatever it is be proficient with it.
So given a generous budget ($3500) you have tons of options so that’s a good thing.
Cartridges:
So many choices but stick to mainstream cartridges and consider recoil vs rifle weight. Lighter rifle lighter cartridge, heavier rifle heavier cartridge, within reason. Once decided buy 3 to 5 boxes of ammo and try them out, whatever shoots Best Buy 4 or 5 boxes of it and you will likely be set up for a long time. Depending on your cartridge you might want to go for a few different bullet weights so you could end up with two loads depending on the game you are hunting.
As to specifics no reason the short actions mentioned won’t work excellent but when I look in my safe while a few of them are in there I am far more likely to grab a long action. If cost and recoil is a thing stay with standard cartridges.
Rifle:
My preference is mixed, nothing like a blued and fancy wood rifle to accompany you on a clear crisp fall hunt with the smell of cottonwood’s and the crunch of leafs but the emotional toll of damaging the finish on that gun in the more likely hood of hunting in challenging conditions have made me appreciate stainless and various synthetics.
Personally I prefer detachable magazines but that’s my preference, the thing is though, with whatever you choose is it has to be 100% reliable to feed, quickly insert and stay retained. You do not have time to fiddle with anything when it’s go time…this is applicable to everything though.
I’m also not a huge fan of ultra light rifles but they do have their niche, however you don’t seem to be looking for a niche rifle.
I’m not a fan of muzzle devices on hunting rifles either; not a fan of the additional noise or the extra care required to keep them free of debris.
Scope:
I surprised the thread hasn’t been more focused on this as there is a huge amount of features, preferences, price points and brand loyalty.
Personally I’d say to go with a known manufacturer with a solid customer service reputation.
My preferences include capped turrets, a simple duplex reticle, SFP and 2.5 to 3x on the lower magnification. Field of view means more to me on the low end than how much I can zoom in on the top end.
Conclusion:
The new easy button:
Tikka T3X stainless in either synthetic or laminate in 30/06 with Burris Signature Zee rings (or Talley’s) and a Leupold VX5HD 3-15x44 however this could push your budget depending specifics and where you shop but this ticks every box solidly.
Solid used options:
Not usually hard to find an excellent condition, low round count Sako 85 Finnlight in 30/06 and a used VX5 to meet your budget. This is a very premium option in my opinion for any hunt, anywhere at anytime.
Stainless Weatherby Vanguards or stainless Howa’s in B&C stocks are fairly common, a tremendous value and are excellent rifles that are more than able to do the job year after year.
Lots of other options and cartridges that are great too but if possible shoulder it before you buy it because not all rifles ergonomically fit all shooters.
Good luck and happy shopping.
 
If I may suggest,
Keep the caliber standard - no magnums
I have owned a few rifles over the years and ones that stand out so me are
Tikka - although like others have said, are massively inflated (maybe for justifiable reason)
Winchester XPR - very accurate out of box
Sauer 100/mauser m18 - Tikka killer; last time I saw, there’s an m18 in 308 on sale for 699 or something. I’d hop on that and never look back.
Vanguard - though every one I’ve owned has been picky with ammo, and I’ve owned a lot
Not a fan of the other budget rifles but that’s just me.
Good luck with your search!
Let us know what you end up with!
thanks! any links to that Sauer 100 / Mauser M18?
 
308 will kill all the critter you will need it to kill. 308 is a NATO caliber so there is lots of it pretty much everywhere. With your price range you listed the Tikka rifles are really good as are the browning xbolt rifles. Do consider spending at least half as much on a scope and rings for whatever setup you go with.
 
Good thread and lots of good info, my take for what it’s worth;
At this point you don’t know the dance you are going to or who it’s with so very difficult to dress perfectly for the occasion but easy to not stand out for the wrong reasons.
BC and big game covers just about every type of terrain, environmental condition, range and target size.
Also a factor (likely) is the group you are going with, most won’t give a care what you pack in either cartridge or rifle but some might so that may play a role (or not) but whatever it is be proficient with it.
So given a generous budget ($3500) you have tons of options so that’s a good thing.
Cartridges:
So many choices but stick to mainstream cartridges and consider recoil vs rifle weight. Lighter rifle lighter cartridge, heavier rifle heavier cartridge, within reason. Once decided buy 3 to 5 boxes of ammo and try them out, whatever shoots Best Buy 4 or 5 boxes of it and you will likely be set up for a long time. Depending on your cartridge you might want to go for a few different bullet weights so you could end up with two loads depending on the game you are hunting.
As to specifics no reason the short actions mentioned won’t work excellent but when I look in my safe while a few of them are in there I am far more likely to grab a long action. If cost and recoil is a thing stay with standard cartridges.
Rifle:
My preference is mixed, nothing like a blued and fancy wood rifle to accompany you on a clear crisp fall hunt with the smell of cottonwood’s and the crunch of leafs but the emotional toll of damaging the finish on that gun in the more likely hood of hunting in challenging conditions have made me appreciate stainless and various synthetics.
Personally I prefer detachable magazines but that’s my preference, the thing is though, with whatever you choose is it has to be 100% reliable to feed, quickly insert and stay retained. You do not have time to fiddle with anything when it’s go time…this is applicable to everything though.
I’m also not a huge fan of ultra light rifles but they do have their niche, however you don’t seem to be looking for a niche rifle.
I’m not a fan of muzzle devices on hunting rifles either; not a fan of the additional noise or the extra care required to keep them free of debris.
Scope:
I surprised the thread hasn’t been more focused on this as there is a huge amount of features, preferences, price points and brand loyalty.
Personally I’d say to go with a known manufacturer with a solid customer service reputation.
My preferences include capped turrets, a simple duplex reticle, SFP and 2.5 to 3x on the lower magnification. Field of view means more to me on the low end than how much I can zoom in on the top end.
Conclusion:
The new easy button:
Tikka T3X stainless in either synthetic or laminate in 30/06 with Burris Signature Zee rings (or Talley’s) and a Leupold VX5HD 3-15x44 however this could push your budget depending specifics and where you shop but this ticks every box solidly.
Solid used options:
Not usually hard to find an excellent condition, low round count Sako 85 Finnlight in 30/06 and a used VX5 to meet your budget. This is a very premium option in my opinion for any hunt, anywhere at anytime.
Stainless Weatherby Vanguards or stainless Howa’s in B&C stocks are fairly common, a tremendous value and are excellent rifles that are more than able to do the job year after year.
Lots of other options and cartridges that are great too but if possible shoulder it before you buy it because not all rifles ergonomically fit all shooters.
Good luck and happy shopping.
Thank you for the comprehensive and awesome response. I think i may take a trip t the gun store and feel how some of the commonly suggested ones feel in the hand. Ultimately, I'd like to buy a used hunting rifle just purely because i'll probably bump or scratch it along the way. I'm not looking for something that i'll fret over if it gets a ding. I will be watching the exchange, gun post, and town post. I will do the same for the optics side.
 
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