I recently bought both a Burris signature hd 3-15x44 and an athlon argos hmr 2-12x44. I had originally bother the Burris for my tikka t3x super lite 30-06 and the athon for my mossburge 472 30-30 leaver. But I am really unsure if I should put the athon on the tikka and sell/ trade the Burris for a lpvo for the 30-30. I love the glass clarity and use of the 15 times on the range but most of my real hunting will be tight brush ti about 150 yard other then the odd swamp or open cut I walk into. Is it worth taking the drop in clarity and low light performance to go to the 2-12. I like to the 2-12 zoom better but everything else is better in the Burris. Also if I do sell/ trade the Burris what should I go with?
Athlon or Burris
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Unless you're hurting for cash, keep them. Used scopes drop value very quickly and hard, even though the quality is good.
Other rifles will usually come along that would do very well with those scopes.
is this realistic evaluation? Sounds like the Argos doesn't meet your standard
If so then get what you really want. Even if the Athlon looses 50% to sell, its not a big hill of beans, best to be satisfied
3x may not be a handicap on the -06 plus a smaller 1-6 fits the lever gun nicer
I bought both of these set ups this year and have loved shooting the Burris out at the range. I just found a good deal on the athlon to try it out and it really doesn’t seem that bad but the redicule is thicker and there is definitely a little difference in clarity. I haven’t really tested the low light performance in real world yet but in my basement with lights off the Burris seams to win. This is an alright scope just not quite Burris quality glass but the 2-12s that have that kind of glass are over 1000 dollars. I actually find the turrets on the athlon better feeling then the Burris. I love having that extra field of view of the 2-12. Not sure if it’s worth trading it to a lpvo as the low light performance will take a hard hit going from a 42mm lends to a 26mm ish lens. Just want to see what people prefers in real world applications a little better low light performance and class or a wider field of view to get on target quicker. I just stared deer hunting a couple years ago and not sure which way to prioritize in my budget.
I find a 2-7 much more useful on a hunting rifle than a 1-6 or 1-8 and generally is all I’d need in the woods. Lighter, smaller, often cheaper than an lpvo.
A lot of LPVOs come with 30mm or 34mm tubes which look out of place on a sleek lever action or bolt action. They will also weigh around 20oz or more.
At 1x, on anything over a 16” barrel, you will see the end of the barrel through the scope which can be distracting in close encounters.
A 2x is still quick to shoulder and sight with a good FoV.
While objective/tube size does contribute to light transmission, having better glass lenses in the first place is more important for clarity and brightness.
Can pick up a Redfield revolution 2-7x33 for around $250-$300. Made by Leupold and covered by their warranty. Weighs less than 10oz.
I’d take that over nearly any sub $1k lpvo.
Thanks for the info. I was noticing that most of the lpvos where as heavier then my 3-15 Burris witch I don’t really want that much weight on my lever expecially with it being an old leaver weighing over 7lbs just the gun. It with a scope weighs almost as much as my tikka fully dressed with scope rings and sling lol. But I will look into some light 2-7 like that. I used my brothers strike eagle and I like the scope but the set up was on the heavy side and still missing a little early light performance. During the day it was great though. I have been looking for Iluminated reticule almost solely after having used one for hunting it’s hard to go back.
In tight, i mean really tight, the 3x (depending on the FOV) can be tough but not impossible, especially with practice. For a woods rifle, light and bright are the way to go. Cheaper LPVO's are often a really compromise in glass at one end or the other, and weigh as much as a small brick.. The illuminated dot can make a huge difference in the woods, especially at the beginning and end of day. Good options are the Burris Fulfield 2-8x (budget) Leupold 1.5-4x (the lightest) and Hawke 1.5-6x (If you want the best glass clarity and widest FOV).
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Thanks for your in put I was really close to buying the Burris fulfills 2.5 to 10 I didn’t know the made a 2-8 option I would like to keep over a 6 top just for sighting in as I site everything at a 100 yards ad as much as I can shoot a deers vitals at 100 yards with 2 power it’s nice to have a good accurate zero. I also hand load so I case 1/2 inch groups out of my tikka and when I get my next lever to replace the mosburg I’ll be chasing sub moa on a bench witch is why I went with a 3-15 on the tikka witch I shoot out to 400 yards for practice and a 2-12 for the leaver to be able to shoot that sub moa groups. But it is very hard to have a target and hunting scope. Which is why I am looking for something a little lighter in the 1 or two low power but still would like 8 or higher but could go to maybe a 6 power on the lever. I do have a dedicated long range 400 yard gun but I do like to practice with my other guns just to get my dope sheets figured out so I can take an ethical shot any where inside if that. It in the bush I early see over 200 unless hit a big clearing or swap but most of it is 20 yard to 150 yard tight brush
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I'm also a fan of 2-7 (leupold) or 2-8 (Burris) on eastern guns.
Have 2-7 on my muzzleloader, and 243 BAR and 2-8 on my 350 Legend
Have 2-7 on my muzzleloader, and 243 BAR and 2-8 on my 350 Legend
Bushnell Elite 3200 2-7
