Whos running LPVO on their 22lr and what are you running? Likes? dislikes?

morp said:
That’s probably heavier than the whole rifle ey? 😉

I generally prefer a 2-7 or a 3-9 on a .22. Tend to be lighter, brighter and less bulky. A smaller 1” tube lpvo can also be nice.
I find most LPVOs to be too heavy and bulky, particularly on a .22.

But each to their own. If it works, it works.
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Ya, probably but what’s an extra lb? It’s not meant to be a lightweight gun anyway.

7.8 lbs.
 
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jparent said:
I prefer MVPO's over the LPVO's i have tried. Hawke in particular an insane FOV. I have a couple (and a couple spare for sale). Very capable without a lot of the LPVO downsides.
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Haha damn, didn't see this before I wrote my longer version several comments later, you summed it up right there.
 
20YearsOfTannerite said:
Genuine question, why is it so important for LPVOs to start at 1x that go to 4,6,8,10x when many of these LPVOs don't even have a true 1x? Lots have "fisheye", etc at 1x and typically have a 24mm objective lens.

There are optics that start at a slightly larger magnification like 1.2/1.5/1.7/2x and will have larger objective lens anywhere from about 32m - 50mm. Either can have a 1" tube, or 30/34mm so you're not necessarily saving weight just because your LPVO starts at 1x.

I often hear that LPVOs that are 1-8x or higher are considered "compromised optics". That the "sweet spot" is 1-6x, at least up until now, maybe technology has improved and 1-10x24mm isn't "compromised" anymore, IDK.

The reason I bring this up is I got rid of my Vortex Venom 1-6x24mm for a Hawke Endurance 30 FD 1.7-10x44mm which is only 1oz heavier, and 3" longer.

I believe I'm gaining more with the Hawke and I'm not even comparing glass clarity. I'd rather "sacrifice" the "flat" 1x of the Venom in order to get all the other goodies (e.g. massive eyebox/exit pupil, more zoomies, longer eye relief) that the Hawke delivers.

I've actually got another (used) scope on the way that fits this train of thought. It's a Vortex Razor HD LH 1.5-8x32mm with a 1" tube. Again, I don't think I'm losing out on much by it not having a flat 1x...

I'm not looking to argue or necessarily convince anyone to think like me. I'm curious to hear the flip side. To play devil's advocate, the only reasons I could think of are if you truly need 1x because of super tight close quarters engagement, smallest possible footprint, and vibes/aesthetic.
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Mostly since for a lot of people the original intent of LPVOs is to have a budget, almost failure-free (mostly mechanical) aiming device that also let you reach further ranges if need be.

Hence why with quite a few LPVOs out there, they only zoom to 4-6x max, while the higher end ones can go up to 10x. Red dots and EOTechs CAN fail, they're still electronics after all. But not LPVOs or even 1x prisms. Etched reticles is a HUGE selling point. For most people, 1-4x or 1-6x is good enough, cuz the truth is most will never get to that zoom level anyway. However, the price difference is make or break. A Vortex Venom 1-6x is 4x cheaper than your authentic EOTech EXPS3 + G33/43/45.

Another thing is bulk. 3" longer may not look like a whole lot, but it does affect weight distribution.
 
Boxboiboy said:
Mostly since for a lot of people the original intent of LPVOs is to have a budget, almost failure-free (mostly mechanical) aiming device that also let you reach further ranges if need be.

Hence why with quite a few LPVOs out there, they only zoom to 4-6x max, while the higher end ones can go up to 10x. Red dots and EOTechs CAN fail, they're still electronics after all. But not LPVOs or even 1x prisms. Etched reticles is a HUGE selling point. For most people, 1-4x or 1-6x is good enough, cuz the truth is most will never get to that zoom level anyway. However, the price difference is make or break. A Vortex Venom 1-6x is 4x cheaper than your authentic EOTech EXPS3 + G33/43/45.

Another thing is bulk. 3" longer may not look like a whole lot, but it does affect weight distribution.
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That makes sense. So basically a do-it-all (other than long range) optic for most shooters, at an affordable price, that doesn't necessarily need batteries.

Is that your personal reason for using one, or was that speaking more generally why you think people buy them? There are lots of expensive LPVOs as well though. I just like having the option for higher zoomies.
 
I like shooting 1X off hand, I don't care if it's perfect 1X as long as it's close.
Some of the latest gen of budget scopes are better at being close to 1x then 10 years ago that's for sure.

A 1-10 that has a forgiving eye box up to 8 or close to 9 is pretty nice, if you need full magnification your probably shooting supported and should have time to get behind the scope in the right spot if it's tight.
 
I settled on a Bushnell R5 1-6x24 LVPO for a Henry Big Boy 357m Carbine. Having older eyes the buckhorn sights were tough for me. Tried a Vortex Crossfire II red dot to keep the weight down but still struggled with distances past 10-15 yards. Switched out to a 2-7x32 scope which was ok but bulky looking on the Henry. The R5 was on for $199 boxing week sale, and that's what lives on it now. It's illuminated so a cross between red dot and magnified scope, and adds some character to the Henry
 
Well, I've never owned one so I ordered one so I can see for myself what they are like. Maybe I'll like it, maybe it will be for sale in a few weeks...
 
20YearsOfTannerite said:
That makes sense. So basically a do-it-all (other than long range) optic for most shooters, at an affordable price, that doesn't necessarily need batteries.

Is that your personal reason for using one, or was that speaking more generally why you think people buy them? There are lots of expensive LPVOs as well though. I just like having the option for higher zoomies.
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That's just a general guide. More so for the people that usually run EOTech + Magnifiers.

Mind you, the expensive combo (and all its budget counterparts) have their own upsides. In the events that the LPVO somehow fails, the whole unit will fail. Most of their mounts are not QD, not even higher ends like Unity or Geissele. Not the case with the magnifier combo. While it's true that EOTech has terrible battery life, for one, you are not forced to use an EOtech. Most magnifiers are QD out of the box, for optional weight reduction (especially so since some LPVOs weight as much as your barrel).

There is another way though. 1x prism + magnifier theoretically gives you the best of both worlds. A reflex sight that mostly will never fail (because it's basically a scope) and a QD magnifier.
 
kbdplinker said:
I settled on a Bushnell R5 1-6x24 LVPO for a Henry Big Boy 357m Carbine. Having older eyes the buckhorn sights were tough for me. Tried a Vortex Crossfire II red dot to keep the weight down but still struggled with distances past 10-15 yards. Switched out to a 2-7x32 scope which was ok but bulky looking on the Henry. The R5 was on for $199 boxing week sale, and that's what lives on it now. It's illuminated so a cross between red dot and magnified scope, and adds some character to the Henry
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I'm a big fan of that scope, it has no business being that good for ~$250. I'm assuming you got it from S&J? They had a wicked sale not too long ago. Love the reticle and tbh I had nothing to complain about. I just wanted more zoomies, only reason I got rid of it.
 
20YearsOfTannerite said:
That makes sense. So basically a do-it-all (other than long range) optic for most shooters, at an affordable price, that doesn't necessarily need batteries.

Is that your personal reason for using one, or was that speaking more generally why you think people buy them? There are lots of expensive LPVOs as well though. I just like having the option for higher zoomies.
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Yup!

Exactly what I really want in a 10/22 or semi auto 22lr rifle, heck even some bolt action 22's
From the gopher field, to plinking steel and maybe some light paper punching. 1' groups at 50 yards with bulk ammo and a good time!
Hence the LPVO, if I wanted to do range work id drop my 5-35 on it lol ITS HEAVY AF lol
 
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