Antique Purchase In USA

[shakeyjake]

1898 being the line for an antique in the US, I’m guessing an export permit is still required? Seeing a couple Springfield 1873 Carbines for $500-700 and the thought crossed my mind.
Then there’s the different state to state regulations while transporting on the way home. Might be easier to shoot up into AB just to get back into Canada with it and only having to deal with a state or two.
I’ll obviously make a call to CBP or ATF if I’d get serious in the next few days. They’ve been pretty good responding to emails when one entity says that nothings required on their end, but to contact another agency.

 

[Painkillers]

Is there a question here?

 

[guntech]

Contact US authorities and let us know what they say about an antique being a firearm or not. I have a hunch it is not a firearm... and if it not a firearm no export paperwork should be required?

 

[milsurpo]

US antique regs are federal so state lines shouldn't matter. To my knowledge no US export permit is required for a business or individual to sell and ship an antique out of the US. I've had quite few simply thrown in USPS with adequate description that ran into no issues at the border. At the Canadian border all you need to do is provide proof that the rifle is a Canadian antique. No permit of any sort is required. Something like a well known military rifle like a Springfield should be no problem. I've imported obscure types that did lead to some head scratching at the freight customs office. It's unfortunate that the whole US antique export thing has been muddled by export brokers misleading people (for obvious reasons) about what is actually required.

milsurpo

 

[snurge]

If I recall correctly Itar requires centerfire antiques to be made before 1890
But most dealers who sell to Canada don’t worry about that

 

[guntech]

If I recall correctly Itar requires centerfire antiques to be made before 1890
But most dealers who sell to Canada don’t worry about that

I find that hard to believe.

 

[milsurpo]

ITAR includes as antiques centerfire arms made between 1890 and 1898 for which ammo is not currently manufactured in the US or readily available commercially. That definition differs from the usual US definition of antique but somewhat fits Canadian regs. As an example, to export an 1895 Mosin M91 from the US to Canada would require an ITAR export permit and to import an 1895 Mosin M91 into Canada would require an importation permit. To move an 1885 .577/450 Martini would require neither.

milsurpo