How the US selected the Colt 1911 as a combat handgun

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I don't care though, I just never liked the 1911. Sorry, John Moses.

But if I read this right, Luger once made a .45 auto?

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In 1904, the Army gave Colonel John T. Thompson and Major Lewis LaGarde a grim assignment: find out what it really takes to stop a determined attacker. They ran ballistic tests at a Chicago slaughterhouse, firing different calibers into animal carcasses and human cadavers to measure penetration and tissue damage. Their conclusion was blunt and specific. A military pistol needed to be at least .45 caliber, a slow but heavy round that delivered the shock and stopping power the .38 had failed to provide.

By 1906 and into 1907, the War Department opened a formal competition for a new service pistol. The requirements were strict. The gun had to be semi-automatic, hold at least six rounds, have a trigger pull under six pounds, and be easy to strip down and maintain in the field. It also had to fire a .45 caliber cartridge. Entries came from across the globe, including Smith & Wesson, Savage Arms, Germany’s Luger, Britain’s Webley, Bergmann, and Colt, all racing to meet the Army’s new standard.

Working with Colt, genius designer John Moses Browning submitted his .45 ACP semi-automatic design. After years of grueling trials that whittled the field down to Colt and Savage, the final 1911 tests proved decisive. The Colt fired 6,000 rounds without a single failure, while the Savage suffered dozens of malfunctions and multiple parts breakages. In March 1911, the Army officially adopted Browning’s design as the Model 1911, beginning a century-long legacy as one of the most trusted combat pistols ever made.


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How the US selected the Colt 1911 as a combat handgun​

If you really want to know the gory details, C&Rsenal on youtube have a whole in-depth series on the development and adoption of the 1911. Ian also has a number of videos on the same thing on Forgotten Weapons.

I don't care though, I just never liked the 1911. Sorry, John Moses.
That's OK, it just makes you wrong about this... ;)

But if I read this right, Luger once made a .45 auto?
Yep, but only a handful for the US trials. They then pulled out of the testing when they got a major order from the German government for 9mm P-08's and they could see the profit margin was much better there than trying to overcome nationalist desires for a home grown pistol in the US.


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Notable that a majority of those cavalry officers wanted a big bore DA revolver and got the 1911 instead. Granted, they were going with what they knew and trusted prior to the 1911, and later polls might show conversion to the semiauto camp.
 
Taking down a man or horse at 50 yards was part of the requirements.

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In Churchill's autobiography, he relates tearing his rotator cuff very early in his career, I believe while getting off the boat in India. Later in North Africa while participating in the last cavalry charge of the British Empire, he was for that reason forced to wield a revolver from horseback instead of a more glamourous cavalry sabre and he said that the enemy soldiers avoided taking him on, preferring the easier marks with the swords. Which perhaps saved him for WWII, who knows?
 
Love the 1911

I’m no scholar on it. But found this to be a great colloquial summary of its early development.

Not the “genius to acceptance” path many incorrectly cite. Rather, a story about staying on something until they got it right.

Fans will enjoy the video…

 
a better and more reliable combat pistol will never be made,period,the 1911 has stood the test of time,in the most intense battles ever fought,nothing will ever top it,let's see these plastic tupperware pistols live as long,LOL..
 
Love the 1911

I’m no scholar on it. But found this to be a great colloquial summary of its early development.

Not the “genius to acceptance” path many incorrectly cite. Rather, a story about staying on something until they got it right.

Fans will enjoy the video…

Too bad they didn't test and demand changes to the M16 like that before they put it into the field.
 
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